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interview when i walked in here now

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exactly that's a clip from a fun youtube

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office as zodiac signs where they play

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various clips from the office if you're

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my family you've kind of looked to as

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a port in the storm as we look for a way

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to

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get through this incredible medical

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tyranny that we're experiencing

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but this theme of astrology is something

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that

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me and today's guest al from forum

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borealis

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kind of rolled into as the

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preamble to our conversation

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so i thought i'd play a little bit of

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that preamble

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according to astrologers the last time

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jupiter saturn and pluto were conjunct

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in capricorn was two thousand years ago

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now it's up it's happening again um

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was they interpreted

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last time it happened triggered the

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birth of the great empire of babylon and

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the sumerian people that went on to rule

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millennia

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conjunction now too

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that for example when they when buddha

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crescent moon past jupiter and saturn

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almost appear to collide to become one

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this happened and look at what happened

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manifestations so what what i'm sure of

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something is going to happen

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be good it could be bad

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analysis there's a correlation there

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al like i said is a very deep guy and

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it's not about what system do we live in

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welcome to skeptico where we explore

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controversial science and spirituality

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with leading researchers thinkers and

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back see i stumbled on my own name

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very excellent forum borealis i always

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on his show in my show and this is a guy

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mirror as a map and

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if you do that uh over enough time like

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the mayans did like the babylonians they

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loved the chinese did like everyone's

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done indians

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so you see oh hmm here's some changes in

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the heavens and look

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look folks there's some changes going on

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in earth too

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now after a hundred years thousand years

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oh look it's the same kind of changes

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happening

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when it's the same kind of movement

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changes going on on earth so it's as

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above so below

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so what's the chicken what's the egg

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what's influencing what

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if if not indeed both are following a

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mutual deeper causation but that's not

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the important thing

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what's the causation there is an

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undisputed correlation and i'm not just

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saying that for my own personal

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conviction i'm saying that because of

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scientific evidence

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i have three different uh books

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scientific reports about this

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plus books about cycles and it's all

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very known for those who want to know

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one of them very

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famous and this kind of research was

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done mostly before

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because nowadays skeptics pseudoscraps

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aesthetic and all the most of science

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but

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in the 70s there were very good and one

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of them michelle goguilen i think is his

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name a frenchman he even killed himself

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because no matter how much good info

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he threw on the table look look at the

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facts for look at the facts

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didn't help ad hominems

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everyone went after him it's the same

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tune we've heard it a thousand times and

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you've covered it many times

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in your excellent shows every time a

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scientist

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steps outside of the accepted paradigm

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paradigm forks not the research not the

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methodology

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but paradigm and

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prove something with it if it debunks

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something with it that's okay you can go

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outside the paradigm and debunk but if

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you prove something

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you gotta you gotta bring him down so

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that's my uh

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my in general why i'm but then i have a

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personal element

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i used chemistry horoscopes

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which means you make two charts

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one where you make one shot but you base

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it upon

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two different people it doesn't even

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have to be people it can be you and an

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advent or

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whatever but you make a like a chemistry

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reading

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and i did that for

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decades i did that in connection with

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the best motivation in the world man

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because you you you don't accept any

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excuses it's just tangible results right

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and indeed i did get that so so after

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that

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it was a close case for me don't deal

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there's so many interesting parts about

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that and we were chatting about it

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before so uh i'm i am going to repeat a

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little

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bit of that because you know science is

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gonna have to be one of the things we

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talk about

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today because i think 2020 in a year in

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review

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was kind of the the final assault

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on science as i see it it was the final

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breakdown of like we don't even need

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science we're just past these edicts and

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just

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we don't care about the science but

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like there's so many subtle shades to it

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that uh that need to be understood

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i know some people are going to react to

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when you say

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uh causation doesn't matter but i think

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you're you're just absolutely

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spot on and here's the bigger picture

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for me

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from a scientific standpoint is that one

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a correlation is the beginning of all

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scientific inquiry

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i mean that that is called observation

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we

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observe something that seems to be

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correlated with something else

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and that begins our observation so on

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astrology you know the the people that

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that

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kind of don't understand the correlation

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thing and the critics will point to

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well you know every year this uh

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insurance company will say

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which drivers are the most accident

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prone and they'll say

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capricorn and then they'll go ha ha ha

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we were just

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data mining every year it changes we

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just take the statistical most

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accidents by this age by this uh

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date you know and da da da well so they

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are correct in pointing out

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how correlation can be misapplied

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but what they're losing sight of is that

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fundamentally

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statistics are about

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correlation properly applied so when i

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said a minute ago about the research

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that you know really impressed me

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of renee alsup who was on the show and

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did this

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very uh refined pure and peer-reviewed

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uh sophisticated monte carlo statistical

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kind of thing you know all this stuff

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that's way over my head but you can read

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it and at least say that person knows

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what they're talking about because they

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reached

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my state my limit of my understanding of

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statistics and that was like in the

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first two sentences

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but what she found was a highly

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statistical

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correlation between

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a particular uh planet correlation you

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know the witcher

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planet juxtaposition planet alignment

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and the extent to which those

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people who had that in their chart would

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have a lot of followers

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a massive amount of followers on twitter

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so

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i guess i'm just trying to uh back up

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what you're saying

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because i think it's it's a super

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important point and it's about the

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subtleties of science

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that at this point you know i don't know

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i

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where you can't separate out uh

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these methodological issues and and

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these

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along with the baggage of science so

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maybe we want to talk about that for a

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minute just in terms of

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how how science is under under attack

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yeah but let me just say about the

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correlation

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of course it matters what's the

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causation if you really want to crack

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open the mechanism of something but in

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terms of

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just knowing that

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or i i prefer the word astro sophie to

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distinguish it from the trash astrology

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but

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even though we may have not have mapped

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every ounce and aspect of it

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um then you just need a correlation

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it's it's the same as you can you know

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if you talk with a nurse

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she will tell you yes it's true i i

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guess we could talk about it from a

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couple of different ways but one

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yeah and and this is kind of the geeky

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sciency stuff though that is interesting

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to me in having these kind of

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conversations

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because you realize how this is so often

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left

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off the table when someone says wear a

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mask don't wear a mask and you go well

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where's your scientific evidence

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for how that is efficacious in

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the real world and you do have to break

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those things down so i'd go back to

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correlation causation i would say we

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will never

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know the causation of everything because

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from an occulted standpoint from an

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extended consciousness standpoint

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you know one of the things that's my

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first book why science is wrong is

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we will never know that completely so

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yes we can add more and more

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uh causations as control mechanisms

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but we only like them because they have

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a high higher degree

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of correlation with the outcome right so

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if we say

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gee you know when it rains the plants

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grow

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and we go and test that we find that

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the the the rainfall is highly

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correlated with the the plants growth

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and then we find some biological reason

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for that

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but we also have other things that we've

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left out

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you know like someone was giving an

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intention to have that particular crop

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grow well we didn't factor that in

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so we can't really say that we've

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totally nailed the causation

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all we can say is we've identified some

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causative elements that are highly

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correlated with the outcome we want

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so i i'm not disagreeing with what

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you're saying i'm just saying

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that a lot of times that this smirky

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uh scientific materialism that we've all

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just come to

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to completely distrust because it's

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completely fake

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has always been fake and we've just been

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kind of conditioned

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by their language to kind of accept what

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they're saying

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a lot more than we probably should and

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this year is the final insult you know

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2020.

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yeah yeah no but that's normal there's

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always been a clash

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between those theories regions and

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you know practice because i was about to

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say like

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if you ask a nurse she'll tell you that

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yeah it's true

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on the full moon more babies are born

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and

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under darkmoon the opposite more people

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die

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and so they always have more um

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[Music]

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baby nurses what's it called so they

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have more midwives and birth nurses

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at work every full moon and at every

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document they have more of those

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who work with death at work because they

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know in advance it will happen they

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don't care why

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and they may come some kind of egghead

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in and say

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no this is superstition and

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it has nothing to do with the moon and

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blah blah blah

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but he could say that to women too in

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terms of menstruation right but they

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wouldn't listen to him they would

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probably

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indulge him but as soon as he was gone

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they would go back to

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you know business as usual more people

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at work then so that's what i'm saying

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from a practical standpoint

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if there is a correlation we can work

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with that

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the question of core session is more

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important because then it's not just

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you know everyday life how are we

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relating to it that is

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understanding why is it so we can change

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it or manipulate it

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somehow so yeah that's when real signs

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enter in

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and that's where they can get away with

576
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:46,640
things because you're very right

577
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:49,200
the ultimate causations and as an

578
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:50,000
association

579
00:21:53,190 --> 00:21:52,000
that's what we're working with right so

580
00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:53,200
the ultimate course

581
00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:55,919
is i mean can't explain emmanuel can't

582
00:22:00,710 --> 00:21:57,600
explain that to us long ago

583
00:22:01,830 --> 00:22:00,720
the thing in itself you can never really

584
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:01,840
know

585
00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:05,600
thing in itself

586
00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:09,360
has to be filtered through in order to

587
00:22:15,750 --> 00:22:13,280
be recognized perceived whatever

588
00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:15,760
and so it's true we cannot that's

589
00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:16,400
because

590
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:19,600
existence is rigged against us it's

591
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:21,120
rigged against us in

592
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:25,360
the way that we only have five windows

593
00:22:29,029 --> 00:22:28,240
maybe you could argue we have a six one

594
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,039
which is

595
00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:31,200
half open but we have only five windows

596
00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:33,679
between ourselves

597
00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:36,880
which is the ultimate reality and

598
00:22:42,070 --> 00:22:40,000
the world those five

599
00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:42,080
windows those five sensors are super

600
00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:44,240
limited and we are so indeed

601
00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:47,600
ingenious because we create tools

602
00:22:53,350 --> 00:22:51,039
to broaden them more

603
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:53,360
so we can know more what's going on

604
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:55,679
that's for example an x-ray machine does

605
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,640
that

606
00:23:01,029 --> 00:22:58,240
but then on the other hand we're so

607
00:23:03,350 --> 00:23:01,039
stupid too human beings that we try to

608
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:03,360
fill those frequencies that we normally

609
00:23:07,669 --> 00:23:04,480
don't interact with

610
00:23:11,270 --> 00:23:07,679
no as in 5g right where we

611
00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:11,280
pollute and you know the

612
00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:13,760
problem then and then that's when we

613
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:16,240
have to discuss causation is

614
00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:19,360
what what um

615
00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:22,480
backlash does it give and if you can't

616
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:23,360
immediately

617
00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:25,919
uncover it and document it hundred

618
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:26,880
percent then

619
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:29,280
they can get away with it because you

620
00:23:32,470 --> 00:23:31,440
know it's so hard to find real

621
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:32,480
causations and

622
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:34,799
and that's so much crime is getting away

623
00:23:38,310 --> 00:23:35,520
with it

624
00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:38,320
so but in terms of the pandemic i think

625
00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:38,720
there's

626
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:41,919
different causations going on

627
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:44,159
and then the correlations are you know

628
00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:45,360
whatever

629
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:49,520
the total balance of those different uh

630
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:52,080
inputs come when they come and play

631
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:54,559
together they find some kind of

632
00:23:59,750 --> 00:23:57,919
um way to you know

633
00:24:01,029 --> 00:23:59,760
it's like different waves being clashed

634
00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:01,039
into each other and

635
00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:03,679
wherever is the midpoint that's that's

636
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:04,640
the uh

637
00:24:09,350 --> 00:24:07,679
correlation we uh find ourselves in

638
00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:09,360
tell me what you mean there let's i i

639
00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:11,679
wasn't this this isn't really where i

640
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,279
was planning on going but let's

641
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:15,360
let's go there let's talk about the

642
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:17,200
pandemic it was obviously

643
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:19,600
one of the most important events of

644
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:20,640
2020.

645
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:23,679
your shows were instrumental

646
00:24:27,430 --> 00:24:26,400
to my coming to grips with it pretty

647
00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:27,440
early on

648
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:31,200
because i'll just maybe you can tell us

649
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:33,360
you know what shows you've done

650
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:36,640
on the pandemic and how it impacted you

651
00:24:43,110 --> 00:24:40,640
but then i can offer i can offer

652
00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:43,120
my opinion but go go ahead tell us tell

653
00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:44,559
us how you covered it

654
00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:45,840
and how you covered it from the

655
00:24:50,310 --> 00:24:48,240
beginning of the year through the end of

656
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:50,320
the year and where you come down on it

657
00:24:53,669 --> 00:24:51,120
now

658
00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:53,679
okay and after that you tell me how you

659
00:25:00,710 --> 00:24:55,840
covered it

660
00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:00,720
i really didn't want to touch it at

661
00:25:05,590 --> 00:25:02,240
first because

662
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:05,600
it was a 24-hour news cycle right right

663
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:08,400
we were all fed up but then i realized

664
00:25:13,110 --> 00:25:11,120
damn i can't stay silenced on this

665
00:25:14,870 --> 00:25:13,120
so i started making some shows and

666
00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:14,880
interestingly

667
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:18,640
as many people said we come to you to

668
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:21,120
to get away from all this [\h__\h] that's

669
00:25:25,909 --> 00:25:22,480
when i realized oh

670
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:25,919
damn that's a good function to have

671
00:25:30,789 --> 00:25:28,880
so but i had to cover the basics of it

672
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:30,799
so i started with uh

673
00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:34,480
with our mutual friend robert ponoma

674
00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:40,870
first the financial aspect and that's

675
00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:42,000
because

676
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:45,120
before the pandemic and i was one of the

677
00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:45,600
few

678
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:47,840
voices out there who touched it but or

679
00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:49,520
it was completely ignored in a

680
00:25:53,350 --> 00:25:52,240
shame stream press and also in the

681
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:53,360
independent media

682
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:56,559
almost no focus but that's that the

683
00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:00,000
economy was crashing before the pandemic

684
00:26:04,390 --> 00:26:02,080
and of course the pandemic just

685
00:26:07,909 --> 00:26:04,400
escalated it even worse

686
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:07,919
in fact before the pandemic

687
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,120
half a year before the pandemic the fed

688
00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:13,679
rail reserve was pumping one trillion

689
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:15,919
dollar a day into the stock market to

690
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:17,440
make it afloat

691
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:19,440
but you don't hear about that so we we

692
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:22,400
had a show called the money game mmt ubi

693
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:24,480
and the corona crash

694
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:27,919
then i covered the virus itself

695
00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:30,159
in a show called what you should know

696
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:31,279
about the pandemic

697
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:35,760
and there i

698
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:38,480
focused on the more sin because you you

699
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:39,840
notice there's like two

700
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:43,120
different uh polarities

701
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:46,480
in the counter culture media

702
00:26:51,430 --> 00:26:49,520
about this one is the plandemic thing

703
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:51,440
uh nothing to see here folks it's all a

704
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:54,159
scam move on and the other is

705
00:26:57,510 --> 00:26:56,320
this is uh either a deliberate or an

706
00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:57,520
accidental

707
00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:00,720
bioweapon lab spill

708
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:02,880
and it's not an either or but let me

709
00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:04,159
just say the third aspect

710
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:05,919
the third show i did uh which was

711
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:07,520
probably your favorite that's

712
00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:09,600
was with the university uh independent

713
00:27:14,070 --> 00:27:10,960
research investigative

714
00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:14,080
journalist george webb called spooky

715
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:15,360
aspects of covenant

716
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:17,039
who was the second one who was the

717
00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:19,600
second one with again it was a doctor

718
00:27:23,269 --> 00:27:20,240
yeah dr

719
00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:23,279
apsley uh great guy so

720
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:25,919
um and the third was josh webb spooky

721
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,760
aspects and there we went into

722
00:27:31,269 --> 00:27:29,279
actually a little bit about to follow

723
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:31,279
the money a little about about the virus

724
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:32,960
a little about how this is planned

725
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:36,240
but in my world all this can be

726
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:39,279
reconciled because you know as well as

727
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:39,600
me

728
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:42,799
that the shock doctrine has never been

729
00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:46,240
more in use than now they tested it out

730
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,279
first in foreign countries and then

731
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:51,360
after a while they started implementing

732
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:52,480
it on

733
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:56,399
uh american citizens too like 911 etc

734
00:28:02,389 --> 00:27:59,440
you could even argue jfk was

735
00:28:03,990 --> 00:28:02,399
kind of a shock doctrine so what they do

736
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:04,000
whether you believe

737
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:08,399
that the cave arabs with box cutters

738
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:12,080
was behind the whole thing in 2001

739
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:15,279
or you don't the fact is that

740
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:17,600
when something like that happens they

741
00:28:26,070 --> 00:28:19,279
cease upon it

742
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:26,080
and pre-tested scenarios it's not it's

743
00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:26,640
not like

744
00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:28,880
invented on the spot they have plans

745
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:30,159
they want to implement

746
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:31,840
and they've had it for years and they

747
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:34,320
still do and we all know what that is

748
00:28:38,950 --> 00:28:37,679
and so every time something shocks the

749
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:38,960
population because

750
00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:42,399
you know the battle isn't happening

751
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:45,120
in the independent areas that's where

752
00:28:54,630 --> 00:28:46,080
the

753
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:54,640
chambers and bubbles

754
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:57,520
for everyone not just independent but

755
00:29:02,230 --> 00:28:59,039
the real battle is

756
00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:02,240
how many of the sleepwalkers can we

757
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:06,159
reach and the thumb rule has always been

758
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:08,720
for the powers that be anywhere anytime

759
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:12,559
that you need to pacify a certain amount

760
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:14,880
there's two ways to do it

761
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,039
either by brutal force which was very

762
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:19,440
popular in the past

763
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:21,120
which is very risky and dangerous

764
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:22,960
because the backlash is so

765
00:29:29,909 --> 00:29:27,360
bad i mean it's the diluting

766
00:29:30,710 --> 00:29:29,919
after that the other way is to pacify

767
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:30,720
them

768
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:33,840
you know the hollywood style the it's

769
00:29:38,149 --> 00:29:36,320
it's basically 1984 versus brave new

770
00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:38,159
world so brave new world

771
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:41,360
keep them happy keep them fed

772
00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:44,240
and uh you know throw them some bones

773
00:29:49,590 --> 00:29:46,880
and let them play with that

774
00:29:50,710 --> 00:29:49,600
now the oligarch of today has forgotten

775
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:50,720
all the lessons

776
00:29:59,909 --> 00:29:58,230
in the 30s and the 40s who brought you

777
00:30:02,789 --> 00:29:59,919
after the depression

778
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:02,799
brought in the new deal and he was

779
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:04,640
criticized oh you're a goddamn you're

780
00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:05,600
yielding to

781
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:08,799
to the socialists and soviet and what

782
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:09,200
not

783
00:30:15,510 --> 00:30:12,559
no no wizard i i

784
00:30:17,110 --> 00:30:15,520
saved capitalism because he understood

785
00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:17,120
we cannot

786
00:30:20,630 --> 00:30:18,880
error you know just destroy the whole

787
00:30:23,430 --> 00:30:20,640
middle class so

788
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:23,440
but that lesson has been forgotten now

789
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:25,440
we're in the exact same situation and

790
00:30:28,870 --> 00:30:27,200
now they're making it worse so it's

791
00:30:30,389 --> 00:30:28,880
going to be very interesting to see what

792
00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:30,399
happens

793
00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:33,679
but uh i talked myself away from the

794
00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:34,320
point

795
00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:37,360
um sorry well then maybe

796
00:30:42,549 --> 00:30:40,640
maybe you need to push on through so

797
00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:42,559
what are you really saying there in

798
00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:45,120
terms of you know the roosevelt's

799
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:48,640
new deal versus the current

800
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:50,960
global financial reset that a lot of

801
00:30:54,149 --> 00:30:52,559
people are talking about so if i can

802
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:54,159
connect your dots thank you

803
00:30:57,830 --> 00:30:56,320
you're talking about our friend robert

804
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:57,840
bonomo saying

805
00:31:01,350 --> 00:31:00,240
you know hey the thing doesn't really

806
00:31:03,830 --> 00:31:01,360
float you know

807
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:03,840
we have these we were comfortable with

808
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:04,720
the term

809
00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:07,760
zombie banks well now we have zombie

810
00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:08,559
nations

811
00:31:15,750 --> 00:31:12,240
of which the u.s is one and virtually

812
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:15,760
every country in europe is one

813
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:18,720
so you know how does that really go yeah

814
00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:20,399
it's very evident right now because in

815
00:31:24,389 --> 00:31:21,039
america

816
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:24,399
in europe they keep us throwing us toys

817
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:25,519
so we can sleep on

818
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:28,480
everybody is getting bail out which of

819
00:31:31,990 --> 00:31:29,600
course when

820
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:32,000
you force a lockdown hold on because

821
00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:33,360
because i did want to kind of get to the

822
00:31:36,549 --> 00:31:34,799
end point here which is what

823
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:36,559
i never hear anyone talking about so

824
00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:38,080
everyone gets to this point that you're

825
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:40,000
talking about and then the conversation

826
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:41,440
just kind of

827
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:43,760
peters out or it just goes okay so

828
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:44,880
they're going to do a

829
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,960
reset you know the other way to do a

830
00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:48,480
reset is war

831
00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,640
right yeah i mean you go to war with

832
00:31:53,110 --> 00:31:52,480
china you got to reset right i mean

833
00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:53,120
because

834
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:56,159
you a straight up war you say okay well

835
00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:57,760
you're holding all the chips but what

836
00:32:01,750 --> 00:31:58,880
you're really holding

837
00:32:02,230 --> 00:32:01,760
hahaha is just notes again to us against

838
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:02,240
us

839
00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:04,480
so now we say screw you we're not

840
00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:06,320
honoring any of the notes

841
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:08,480
game over so that's another way to do

842
00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:09,840
the reset and i'm not

843
00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:11,919
advocating any of these people i'm just

844
00:32:14,950 --> 00:32:13,039
saying why don't

845
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:14,960
that that seems to be off the table it's

846
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:17,279
always like oh my gosh we're just

847
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:19,840
printing more money it's like well so

848
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:21,120
what do you know that

849
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:24,720
why is that necessarily ever going to

850
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:26,880
there's there's a couple ways to solve

851
00:32:30,669 --> 00:32:28,000
that problem

852
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:30,679
and the the it's not it isn't

853
00:32:36,750 --> 00:32:32,799
necessarily

854
00:32:40,230 --> 00:32:36,760
uh you know this very global

855
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:40,240
agenda-driven reset and i i hate when we

856
00:32:43,990 --> 00:32:42,320
start using that language again and

857
00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:44,000
again i'm not advocating i'm just saying

858
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:51,190
no i agree but first off i want to just

859
00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:52,320
say

860
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:54,559
i was getting originally to the point

861
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:55,519
that

862
00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:58,240
you know virus vs pandemic it may be

863
00:33:02,549 --> 00:32:59,360
both

864
00:33:05,029 --> 00:33:02,559
there may have been an actual spill

865
00:33:06,870 --> 00:33:05,039
and they may have seen it and they then

866
00:33:07,509 --> 00:33:06,880
ceased upon it with the pandemic you see

867
00:33:09,750 --> 00:33:07,519
what i mean

868
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:09,760
so it doesn't mean that oh there's no

869
00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:10,720
such thing as

870
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:13,360
corvidan or you don't worry if you get

871
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:14,640
it it may still be

872
00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:17,600
serious and on the other hand yes it may

873
00:33:20,870 --> 00:33:18,799
be exploited for

874
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:20,880
a more sinister political purpose

875
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:22,720
because that's what they do with crisis

876
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:23,760
they take them

877
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:26,720
and they try to shape because here's the

878
00:33:29,110 --> 00:33:27,360
thing

879
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:29,120
i was talking about the fight to win

880
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:31,200
over the uh sleepwalkers

881
00:33:35,669 --> 00:33:33,840
i i always have that in mind that there

882
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:35,679
may be sleepwalkers listening to me so i

883
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:37,200
always need to reach them i don't want

884
00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:39,600
to get too esoteric

885
00:33:42,950 --> 00:33:41,200
unless that's the whole point with the

886
00:33:46,230 --> 00:33:42,960
show so uh

887
00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:46,240
and that's brilliant opportunities for

888
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:47,679
the powers to be because they could

889
00:33:51,669 --> 00:33:50,559
never look down stuff under normal

890
00:33:53,590 --> 00:33:51,679
circumstances

891
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:53,600
the sleepwalkers wouldn't allow it

892
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:56,480
because that would shook them so much

893
00:33:59,830 --> 00:33:58,960
that they would realize oh my god the

894
00:34:02,630 --> 00:33:59,840
world isn't

895
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:02,640
as safe and comfortable and simple as i

896
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:03,679
desperately

897
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:06,320
wanted to believe i'm feeling it on my

898
00:34:11,669 --> 00:34:08,079
own body now

899
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:11,679
and that's uh always good grounds for

900
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:14,879
revolutions and reforms and changes from

901
00:34:18,790 --> 00:34:17,520
below because that's when everybody is

902
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:18,800
losing

903
00:34:22,629 --> 00:34:20,879
they're waking up right this oh i've

904
00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:22,639
been hypnotized i've been a zombie okay

905
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:23,599
come with us

906
00:34:27,669 --> 00:34:26,240
boys let's fight the man but the man

907
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:27,679
does the same

908
00:34:34,069 --> 00:34:30,960
911 and now

909
00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:34,079
the majority are full full affair and

910
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:35,040
disoriented

911
00:34:39,270 --> 00:34:38,159
and that's when you shovel down before

912
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:39,280
they get to think about

913
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:41,280
anything or organize or anything you

914
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:43,520
shovel down through the throat

915
00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:45,919
insane measures that never could have

916
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:47,359
gone through under normal

917
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:51,520
circumstances so that's the big battle

918
00:34:59,910 --> 00:34:54,800
in crisis like this to win over the

919
00:35:04,069 --> 00:35:01,990
in eu can we pause there for a second

920
00:35:05,589 --> 00:35:04,079
and talk about sleepwalkers because

921
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:05,599
you know this is going to be this is

922
00:35:09,190 --> 00:35:07,119
going to be our classic kind of

923
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:09,200
conversation it could just kind of go on

924
00:35:11,349 --> 00:35:10,560
endlessly in all these different

925
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:11,359
directions

926
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:13,920
but your point i think is so so

927
00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:15,280
important and again i would

928
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:17,200
because that's mom's up skeptica i'd

929
00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:18,880
have a slightly different perspective on

930
00:35:23,030 --> 00:35:19,520
that

931
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:23,040
one and tell me what you think but i

932
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:25,520
i will bet you anything your experience

933
00:35:30,069 --> 00:35:26,800
is the same

934
00:35:31,349 --> 00:35:30,079
it's not so much that we are waking the

935
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:31,359
sleepwalker

936
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:33,839
it's that we happen to be around when

937
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:34,880
they wake up

938
00:35:38,630 --> 00:35:37,839
right because the the resistance to

939
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:38,640
waking up

940
00:35:43,190 --> 00:35:41,440
is so strong and particularly from a

941
00:35:46,390 --> 00:35:43,200
spiritual perspective you know

942
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:46,400
this is like a deeply ingrained pattern

943
00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:48,960
that might even span lifetimes we have

944
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:50,880
to suspect for a lot of people

945
00:35:53,990 --> 00:35:53,280
because we see them and it is so deeply

946
00:35:57,030 --> 00:35:54,000
ingrained

947
00:35:59,109 --> 00:35:57,040
they can be given piles and piles of

948
00:35:59,430 --> 00:35:59,119
evidence and it just does not change

949
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,440
them

950
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:01,359
we need to look no further than our

951
00:36:04,710 --> 00:36:03,359
religious institutions you know and it's

952
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,720
like no matter

953
00:36:08,310 --> 00:36:06,720
what is exposed you just keep following

954
00:36:10,230 --> 00:36:08,320
that there was a very famous book

955
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:10,240
written when prophecy fails about

956
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:13,119
cults and you that would make prophetic

957
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:14,160
predictions

958
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:15,839
and you would anticipate that when you

959
00:36:19,750 --> 00:36:17,599
say that the world is going to end

960
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:19,760
on march 5th and the world doesn't end

961
00:36:22,069 --> 00:36:20,720
on march 5th

962
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,079
you would say well that's probably the

963
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:24,400
end of the cult and what he found was

964
00:36:28,950 --> 00:36:26,720
exactly the opposite yeah a few people

965
00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:28,960
drifted away but the majority

966
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:31,839
double down and that is the sleepwalker

967
00:36:35,430 --> 00:36:33,040
phenomena so

968
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:35,440
i think that what really is sleepwalking

969
00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:36,400
is about is

970
00:36:40,069 --> 00:36:39,200
we happen to be there when they wake up

971
00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:40,079
which is kind of

972
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:43,839
a neat thing but i do so much agree with

973
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:46,160
your other point which is

974
00:36:50,710 --> 00:36:48,720
i always think us in the alt alt

975
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:50,720
community which we are because we're not

976
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:52,480
even the alt community more we're the

977
00:37:00,390 --> 00:36:52,880
alt

978
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:00,400
the power that that is in the hands

979
00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:04,160
of the social engineers of the mk ultra

980
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:07,440
uh you know educated mk they went to the

981
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:09,119
mk ultra institute

982
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:11,200
50 years ago and they're so much further

983
00:37:14,950 --> 00:37:12,880
along than that and the thing that

984
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:14,960
the tagline always uses they have not

985
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:16,320
yet begun to fight

986
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:18,400
so if you think there's going to be this

987
00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:19,680
massive uh

988
00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:22,160
waking up that is then going to kind of

989
00:37:28,230 --> 00:37:24,560
storm the gates of the castle with

990
00:37:31,589 --> 00:37:28,240
pitchforks and torches maybe

991
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:31,599
but i would say be ready for a lot of

992
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:32,960
counter attacks

993
00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:35,200
from weaponry that they have stacked up

994
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:36,079
that we haven't

995
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:38,640
even begun to contemplate what do you

996
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:39,520
think

997
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:42,240
oh my god this better be a three hour

998
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:43,359
because

999
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:47,440
i have an hour reply only to that one

1000
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:51,040
but first off you're very right

1001
00:37:54,550 --> 00:37:54,240
uh it doesn't mean that first no first

1002
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:54,560
off

1003
00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:56,320
who's waking then up you're right it's

1004
00:38:00,870 --> 00:37:57,760
not us

1005
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:00,880
it's the material conditions

1006
00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:05,040
because we have a maslow hierarchy of

1007
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:05,920
needs

1008
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:08,960
and if you [\h__\h] with my ninth priority

1009
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:11,200
i may let it go i may you know it's not

1010
00:38:15,190 --> 00:38:13,200
worth the fight but if you [\h__\h] with my

1011
00:38:17,589 --> 00:38:15,200
primary or secondary

1012
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:17,599
i mean i need food in my belly and i

1013
00:38:22,230 --> 00:38:19,280
need roof over my head

1014
00:38:24,150 --> 00:38:22,240
and i need a whole lot of other things

1015
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:24,160
before i can sit down having this

1016
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,599
cornwall with you alex and so when they

1017
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:29,599
take that away or they shake it up

1018
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:33,520
for folks and you and me we can handle

1019
00:38:39,109 --> 00:38:36,560
i mean we can watch uh horror movies and

1020
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:39,119
not flinch we can we can be abducted by

1021
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:41,680
aliens and and ask doesn't it go any

1022
00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:42,400
faster

1023
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:45,920
but if you just you know just uh the the

1024
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:47,440
idea of a ghost

1025
00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:49,839
to a sleepwalker is shaking them up in

1026
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:51,040
their

1027
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:54,160
core so imagine how they are handling

1028
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:56,240
because their their whole paradigm

1029
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:58,160
sounds so arrogant of us

1030
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,440
to call them that we are all

1031
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:01,440
sleepworkers in different areas okay

1032
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:03,359
so it's all about waking up nobody's

1033
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:04,800
better than yes good point

1034
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:07,440
yeah yeah but here's the thing when it

1035
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:08,720
happens to them because

1036
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:12,400
their value system and paradigm are 100

1037
00:39:16,069 --> 00:39:15,040
dependent on there's not going to be a

1038
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:16,079
change

1039
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:22,640
what you call it increase mentalism

1040
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:26,480
and it's incremental and it's

1041
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:29,599
it's just uh abstract and theoretic yeah

1042
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:32,240
the russian revolution in 1917 all the

1043
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:33,520
black plague yeah

1044
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:36,640
i can get those concepts but don't talk

1045
00:39:40,630 --> 00:39:37,920
to me about

1046
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:40,640
look at poor graham hancock why does

1047
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:42,480
those guys get so much

1048
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:45,040
they have all the facts on their side

1049
00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:46,960
and they go after the man that's because

1050
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:47,599
you

1051
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:51,839
say no the world can just

1052
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:54,480
go under you know the the driest period

1053
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:56,640
in all that debate overnight

1054
00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:58,640
they they don't want to think about that

1055
00:40:03,829 --> 00:40:01,040
they're traumatized from atlantis okay

1056
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:03,839
because astrology is just like the genes

1057
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:05,440
it's just a map

1058
00:40:11,589 --> 00:40:08,640
it's not the genes driving me

1059
00:40:12,870 --> 00:40:11,599
it's a correlation and however i

1060
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:12,880
experience life

1061
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:14,880
influences my genes and it's the same

1062
00:40:17,190 --> 00:40:16,720
thing with the astrology just to close

1063
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:17,200
that

1064
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,160
uh the current debate so it's about

1065
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:26,640
the material conditions and then yes

1066
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:27,520
you're right

1067
00:40:31,589 --> 00:40:30,000
uh manny will double down that's a very

1068
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:31,599
good point you made

1069
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:33,440
you'll see because they're not ready to

1070
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:34,880
come out and admit

1071
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:38,000
that you know they have been in an ally

1072
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:39,359
in an illusion so

1073
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:41,280
they have to fight even harder no you

1074
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:42,880
have to wear a mask or a

1075
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:45,280
god and kill you or you have to take the

1076
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:46,000
vaccine

1077
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:49,359
yes give me a chip yes so so they become

1078
00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:53,440
they are fastest weed proved in his book

1079
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:56,560
the function of the orgasm it's very

1080
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:57,359
connected to

1081
00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:00,800
our character and psychological design

1082
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:01,920
now

1083
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:05,040
even those guys have a hard limit and

1084
00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:06,480
i'll give you an example of where that's

1085
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:07,359
been passed

1086
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:10,240
just now lately but i also want to point

1087
00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:11,520
before the out

1088
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:14,400
before that that even though many double

1089
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:16,079
down and become

1090
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:18,720
like crazy cultists for that big cult

1091
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:20,480
called society

1092
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:24,000
we get record numbers over to our side

1093
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:26,880
which that means in broad terms the

1094
00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:28,640
counter culture side and i'm not going

1095
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:30,079
left right here because

1096
00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:32,319
that whole thing in itself is is kind of

1097
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:33,359
an illusion or

1098
00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:35,440
it's not an illusion it's a distraction

1099
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:36,560
because it's true

1100
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:39,599
in cultures matters in values but

1101
00:41:44,230 --> 00:41:42,079
not on the primary matters and that's

1102
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:44,240
where populism has to bond together

1103
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:45,119
because

1104
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:46,480
for example if you're a right-wing

1105
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:49,680
populist you are against wars

1106
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:51,599
but mainly so because you don't want to

1107
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,960
[\h__\h] up other countries

1108
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:54,319
because you're a nationalist and you

1109
00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:55,760
don't want other countries to [\h__\h] up

1110
00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:57,440
your own you realize that

1111
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:00,560
plus you don't want a blowback of

1112
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:04,800
a million refugees etc or the bad karma

1113
00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:06,800
what you plus you don't want the money

1114
00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:08,720
to go to war industry you wanted to go

1115
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:10,319
to build up your own country that you

1116
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:12,319
love and and yourself that you need to

1117
00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:15,760
stay alive now if you're at the left

1118
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:18,800
you will probably have more um emotional

1119
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:19,760
and ideal

1120
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:22,240
idealist reasons for it it could be in

1121
00:42:25,430 --> 00:42:23,200
general like you're

1122
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,440
like buddhism oh i'm against you know

1123
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:27,520
i'm a pacifist i'm against hurting

1124
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:28,480
others anyway

1125
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:31,040
or and you can share some like you you

1126
00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:32,640
want the money to be spent in your own

1127
00:42:37,270 --> 00:42:33,599
country for

1128
00:42:40,710 --> 00:42:37,280
you know social welfare whatever so

1129
00:42:43,990 --> 00:42:40,720
if you can get those two guys to fight

1130
00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:44,000
over you know cultural issues or or

1131
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:47,280
identity you know gender issues or

1132
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:50,640
abortion bomb you win and this i don't

1133
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:52,640
i know i'm flogging a dead horse we've

1134
00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:54,640
been down this road many times so let's

1135
00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:55,520
just

1136
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,599
put that to the side now in europe

1137
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:01,520
hold on hold on that was that was

1138
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:03,359
absolutely brilliant i don't care how

1139
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:04,319
many times

1140
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:07,040
uh we've we've covered it or it's been

1141
00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:07,359
said

1142
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:10,640
you you very succinctly i think

1143
00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:12,640
captured something there that's awesome

1144
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:14,800
i i loved hearing it so please continue

1145
00:43:18,630 --> 00:43:17,520
okay cool because uh i believe we can

1146
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:18,640
cool light

1147
00:43:22,550 --> 00:43:20,960
not just across left and right wing but

1148
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:22,560
across everything

1149
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:24,400
but it's not about our differences

1150
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:26,000
that's what they want to point out we

1151
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:28,960
have to point to the goals so if people

1152
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:30,400
let's say low freedom

1153
00:43:34,870 --> 00:43:31,680
let me pull you back in a different

1154
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:34,880
direction here let me

1155
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:37,200
piss on all that which i i kind of like

1156
00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:38,560
to do sometimes because

1157
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:41,839
i am such an idealist i am such a

1158
00:43:47,910 --> 00:43:45,040
an advocate of just life and

1159
00:43:48,950 --> 00:43:47,920
love and and prosperity on a personal

1160
00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:48,960
level

1161
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:53,040
so resonate with what you're saying

1162
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:54,720
because it's so optimistic

1163
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:57,599
but let me be less optimistic and let me

1164
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:00,480
return to the point of

1165
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:03,280
they have not yet begun to fight because

1166
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:04,960
as you alluded to

1167
00:44:08,309 --> 00:44:07,599
some of the tools at their disposal is

1168
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:08,319
like this

1169
00:44:11,430 --> 00:44:11,040
identity politics right they they can

1170
00:44:13,829 --> 00:44:11,440
play

1171
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:13,839
they can undermine your glorious

1172
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:15,119
strategy

1173
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:18,560
as they have so effectively with just

1174
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:19,359
something as

1175
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:22,480
simple as identity politics yeah and

1176
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:24,480
it's completely

1177
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:27,280
effective i get it i agree with you but

1178
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:28,800
let me give you even more hope

1179
00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,560
from because we have to be scientific

1180
00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:32,880
and not idealistic when we discuss this

1181
00:44:39,030 --> 00:44:36,000
so i'll back up my points from

1182
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:39,040
reality not from my wish list if it was

1183
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:41,040
my wish list we were discussing

1184
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:42,880
i will paint an even better picture for

1185
00:44:47,109 --> 00:44:44,079
you so let's

1186
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:47,119
let's anchor this in reality just

1187
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:49,359
these days here something interesting

1188
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:51,280
have happened on american left because

1189
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:53,040
you know i make a point out of

1190
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:55,680
not being in an echo chamber so unlike

1191
00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:58,240
most people in the independent field

1192
00:45:01,589 --> 00:45:00,319
i think unlike most i think i'm in a

1193
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:01,599
minority

1194
00:45:05,670 --> 00:45:04,880
i deliberately keep oriented in all

1195
00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:05,680
areas

1196
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:09,280
of existence that i uh you know can

1197
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:10,960
you know within my resources and

1198
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:13,119
politically i keep an eye both on the

1199
00:45:15,589 --> 00:45:14,319
left and the right because there's

1200
00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:15,599
interesting things going on

1201
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:18,720
in both and right now as we speak you

1202
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:19,680
know

1203
00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:22,800
uh 80 of americans want a universal

1204
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:23,760
health care system

1205
00:45:27,990 --> 00:45:26,480
it's just nigeria and usa who hasn't got

1206
00:45:31,030 --> 00:45:28,000
it yet

1207
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:31,040
and that's 80 percent of

1208
00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:34,240
uh no sorry it's 70 percent of american

1209
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:37,520
it's 89 of democrats it's

1210
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:40,560
55 of republicans and i don't remember

1211
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:42,960
the number for independence but if the

1212
00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:46,160
overall number is 70 then the moth is

1213
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,400
there now

1214
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:50,480
politicians is the opposite you'll find

1215
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:51,680
a handful

1216
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:53,920
who probably support let's say bernie's

1217
00:45:57,990 --> 00:45:56,079
version of medicare for all because

1218
00:45:59,109 --> 00:45:58,000
make no mistake folks universal

1219
00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:59,119
healthcare

1220
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:01,440
comes in five different versions from a

1221
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:02,160
left-wing

1222
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:05,760
solutions like uk and the nhs

1223
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:08,880
to a right-wing solution which is what

1224
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:10,400
they in america called

1225
00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:14,880
the pub public option

1226
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:18,800
now that's not what america has you have

1227
00:46:23,430 --> 00:46:20,400
corporatism

1228
00:46:25,670 --> 00:46:23,440
and no politician is backing it and

1229
00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:25,680
you have here a lot of voices on the

1230
00:46:29,589 --> 00:46:27,119
left saying they want it

1231
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:29,599
well look at what just happened jimmy

1232
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:31,520
dore that loose cannon

1233
00:46:35,829 --> 00:46:34,000
you have to love the guy he's the alex

1234
00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:35,839
jones of the left

1235
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:41,119
and he has now exposed

1236
00:46:46,309 --> 00:46:44,400
one of the biggest independent networks

1237
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:46,319
out there that well the thing is they're

1238
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:47,599
not independent anymore

1239
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:50,800
namely the young turks they were once

1240
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:51,520
upon a time

1241
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:53,920
pretty innovative and independent but

1242
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:54,800
long ago

1243
00:46:58,630 --> 00:46:56,640
been mainstream and they're in hillary

1244
00:47:01,270 --> 00:46:58,640
clinton's pocket and establishment

1245
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:01,280
democrats and he's exposing it live

1246
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:04,720
and he's turned 80 of the of the young

1247
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:05,359
turks

1248
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:08,720
uh audience against them why because

1249
00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:12,319
he is now find himself accidentally

1250
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:15,760
at the spare head of a campaign to

1251
00:47:20,710 --> 00:47:18,079
expose the so-called progressive left

1252
00:47:22,470 --> 00:47:20,720
politicians like the squad aoc

1253
00:47:24,309 --> 00:47:22,480
and all the new ones that are coming in

1254
00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:24,319
because i'm bernie sanders too

1255
00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:25,520
because they're not fighting for

1256
00:47:29,109 --> 00:47:27,680
medicare for all because nancy pelosi

1257
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:29,119
that old [\h__\h] can i

1258
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:32,160
sorry uh beep that but

1259
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:35,280
she's disgusting and she

1260
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:38,400
they want aoc and those guys to force

1261
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:39,200
her

1262
00:47:43,750 --> 00:47:42,160
to have a flaw vote on medicare for all

1263
00:47:45,510 --> 00:47:43,760
not that it's going to pass but they

1264
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:45,520
want to see which politicians

1265
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:48,000
in both parties that are actually going

1266
00:47:51,670 --> 00:47:49,760
to block it in the middle of a goddamn

1267
00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:51,680
depression where people lose their jobs

1268
00:47:55,349 --> 00:47:53,119
and for some weird reason

1269
00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:55,359
jobs that are attached to health care in

1270
00:47:58,870 --> 00:47:56,319
america

1271
00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:58,880
which keeps them you know slaves

1272
00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:00,480
attached to the jobs and not seeking

1273
00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:01,520
careers but

1274
00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:03,520
now they even lose that and they don't

1275
00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:05,359
have health care and it's a depression

1276
00:48:11,270 --> 00:48:08,400
and it's a good and pandemic

1277
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:11,280
so they want to see which politicians

1278
00:48:15,750 --> 00:48:12,240
because if you go

1279
00:48:18,549 --> 00:48:15,760
get those names down they'll be

1280
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:18,559
destroyed in the next elections because

1281
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:20,000
now people care because

1282
00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:22,720
everybody wants it because nobody you

1283
00:48:25,510 --> 00:48:23,440
alex

1284
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:25,520
are upper class so you don't feel the

1285
00:48:29,109 --> 00:48:26,640
pain but

1286
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:29,119
your brothers and sisters are really

1287
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:30,160
suffering now

1288
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:33,119
50 are about to lose their homes and i'm

1289
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:34,640
not blaming any

1290
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:36,480
particular it's not like this is trump's

1291
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:38,160
fault or russia's vote or

1292
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:40,880
anything but it's congress it's it's

1293
00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:43,040
mostly to blame and that's democratic

1294
00:48:48,470 --> 00:48:46,240
uh governed now they

1295
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:48,480
they have a leverage over nancy pelosi

1296
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:50,640
because she needs their votes just one

1297
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:51,920
vote

1298
00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,920
can boycott her as the new speaker in

1299
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:55,680
the house she's going to renew

1300
00:48:59,430 --> 00:48:58,240
although she promised to step down she's

1301
00:49:01,270 --> 00:48:59,440
up for re-election

1302
00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:01,280
and so they had leveraged for the first

1303
00:49:06,549 --> 00:49:03,520
time aoc and those people are leverage

1304
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:06,559
and what do they do nothing

1305
00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:08,480
nothing nothing nothing nothing they

1306
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:09,680
just no no

1307
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:12,400
you saw that in election too they said

1308
00:49:14,790 --> 00:49:12,960
no no

1309
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:14,800
support biden support biden he won't

1310
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:16,319
give you anything you want but support

1311
00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:16,960
biden

1312
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:18,640
and it's the same now they're so loyal

1313
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:20,720
and jimmy dore is not pushing and saying

1314
00:49:26,950 --> 00:49:24,240
people if they don't withheld

1315
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:26,960
do like the tea party did on the right

1316
00:49:29,670 --> 00:49:28,880
withhold their vote for nancy pelosi

1317
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:29,680
until she

1318
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:33,119
gives a floorboard to medicare for then

1319
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:37,119
we they're all exposed as fake

1320
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:40,000
populists and others and young turks

1321
00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:41,359
came out against it but

1322
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:44,000
everybody is for it and that's the

1323
00:49:48,630 --> 00:49:45,599
positive thing alex

1324
00:49:51,190 --> 00:49:48,640
when you see sleepwalkers because i

1325
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:51,200
i believe there's at least as many

1326
00:49:54,309 --> 00:49:51,839
stupid

1327
00:49:56,069 --> 00:49:54,319
people on the left on the american left

1328
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:56,079
as or on the american right

1329
00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:58,640
if not more and when you see they

1330
00:50:02,309 --> 00:49:59,680
realize

1331
00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:02,319
that everybody is a part of the game the

1332
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:03,520
young turks

1333
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,640
aoc nancy pelosi it's

1334
00:50:09,829 --> 00:50:09,119
all uh it's either the establishment

1335
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:09,839
itself

1336
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:13,040
or they are controlled or blackmailed or

1337
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:15,760
or seduced or pressured so now it's a

1338
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:16,720
real

1339
00:50:20,470 --> 00:50:18,880
populist uprising going on on the left

1340
00:50:22,950 --> 00:50:20,480
and not just in america

1341
00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:22,960
in india right now there's 200 million

1342
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:24,319
people in the world's

1343
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:26,880
biggest general strike because when the

1344
00:50:30,150 --> 00:50:27,839
media is sold

1345
00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:30,160
when the politicians are on the take

1346
00:50:33,430 --> 00:50:32,160
when every institute democratic

1347
00:50:36,230 --> 00:50:33,440
institution

1348
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,240
that we can use to implement the

1349
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:38,319
beautiful ideals you are describing that

1350
00:50:42,069 --> 00:50:40,000
you share with everyone

1351
00:50:43,030 --> 00:50:42,079
no matter their paradigm or their

1352
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:43,040
political

1353
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:46,160
affiliation or whatever just freedom

1354
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:49,520
basic prosperity happy harmony whatever

1355
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:53,520
then people band together

1356
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:57,280
like they do now and jimmy dore

1357
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:01,440
is adding it and it's the majority

1358
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:05,839
and they are now realizing it is a lie

1359
00:51:09,750 --> 00:51:07,839
and this can spill over to other areas

1360
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:09,760
too but hold on a second because this is

1361
00:51:14,069 --> 00:51:10,880
going to be

1362
00:51:16,950 --> 00:51:14,079
this might be a major rift not really

1363
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:16,960
but but just a a dividing point in this

1364
00:51:21,510 --> 00:51:17,680
discussion

1365
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:21,520
because like to me i'm so surprised

1366
00:51:24,710 --> 00:51:24,079
that you would go with universal health

1367
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:24,720
care

1368
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:27,200
because i think from my read of that

1369
00:51:31,109 --> 00:51:27,839
from

1370
00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:31,119
where i sit in the alt alt community is

1371
00:51:35,270 --> 00:51:33,760
that whole movement has taken about five

1372
00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:35,280
steps back

1373
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:37,440
because we're now facing a medical

1374
00:51:41,750 --> 00:51:39,359
tyranny that is unlike

1375
00:51:43,510 --> 00:51:41,760
anything we could have anticipated we

1376
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:43,520
didn't think they would get to

1377
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:47,200
this level of control with an all-out

1378
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:50,880
fake medical uh oppression of people

1379
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,359
for 20 years and they've accelerated in

1380
00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:54,960
the last year they have it

1381
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:56,880
i mean vaccines are going to be

1382
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:58,960
mandatory to some extent

1383
00:52:02,549 --> 00:52:01,040
whether it's you can't fly on a plane or

1384
00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:02,559
you can't go to the ball game

1385
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:06,000
or whatever the heck it is vaccines will

1386
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:06,400
be

1387
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:08,800
uh mandatory and once we're to that

1388
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:11,040
point there really is no

1389
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:13,760
there really is no fallback so i don't

1390
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:14,480
want to be

1391
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:18,079
any part of that medical system

1392
00:52:22,390 --> 00:52:21,040
universal health care i i understand my

1393
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:22,400
brothers and sisters who are

1394
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:24,319
who are suffering but i would suggest

1395
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:26,079
that they need to re-examine their life

1396
00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:26,640
and see

1397
00:52:32,470 --> 00:52:29,440
how they can more effectively withdraw

1398
00:52:35,589 --> 00:52:32,480
from the phony

1399
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:35,599
and ineffective medical uh system that

1400
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:36,400
we have i

1401
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:38,400
i don't know why we want to move into

1402
00:52:42,790 --> 00:52:39,599
that or no

1403
00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:42,800
you misunderstand let me clarify

1404
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:46,079
okay so i'm just talking about

1405
00:52:51,670 --> 00:52:49,119
financing health

1406
00:52:53,510 --> 00:52:51,680
uh that can be done many different ways

1407
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:53,520
financially

1408
00:52:57,349 --> 00:52:55,119
you're but if you're talking about the

1409
00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:57,359
contents of the health apparatus

1410
00:53:02,150 --> 00:52:59,680
that's actually another debate and it's

1411
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:02,160
not tied automatically to finances

1412
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:04,800
because for example in uk

1413
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:07,280
homeopathy can't separate them can't

1414
00:53:12,549 --> 00:53:08,400
yeah

1415
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:12,559
i'll i'll prove it in uk you have

1416
00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:15,200
a homeopathy accepted as part of the

1417
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:16,640
public healthcare

1418
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:18,880
so it's free like at the point of

1419
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:20,880
service like anything else

1420
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:23,280
and that's because they have their own

1421
00:53:26,309 --> 00:53:24,400
debates

1422
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:26,319
the problem with what you're pointing

1423
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:27,440
out isn't

1424
00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:31,440
who's financing it the problem is

1425
00:53:37,990 --> 00:53:34,720
that big multinational corporations

1426
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:38,000
pfizer monsanto everyone we we know who

1427
00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:39,520
they are

1428
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:42,160
not only are they the same as the owners

1429
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:43,200
as the

1430
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:45,680
digital corporations and the military

1431
00:53:49,829 --> 00:53:46,240
industry

1432
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:49,839
and media but also they are calling the

1433
00:53:53,829 --> 00:53:50,720
shots

1434
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:53,839
so they don't want to give you universal

1435
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:54,800
healthcare because

1436
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:57,599
they want a price gouge every you have a

1437
00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:58,720
scam system

1438
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:00,640
first off you have a needless middleman

1439
00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:03,520
a mafia the insurance companies

1440
00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:06,400
who exploit it and their interest is not

1441
00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:07,440
to pay out

1442
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:08,960
so even when you have healthcare you

1443
00:54:13,270 --> 00:54:10,800
don't really have it as your experience

1444
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:13,280
when it manifests but secondary

1445
00:54:16,950 --> 00:54:15,520
what do you want al what do you want out

1446
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:16,960
of the health care system

1447
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,880
i can you know if i fall into that and

1448
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:20,400
break my arm

1449
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:22,400
i want something hold on i want

1450
00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:24,160
something i want something from if i

1451
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:26,160
fall down and break my arm break my leg

1452
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:27,520
i want something from the health care

1453
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,240
system

1454
00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:30,319
in all other situations i can't think of

1455
00:54:32,309 --> 00:54:31,760
anything i want from those [\h__\h]

1456
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:32,319
people

1457
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:34,240
i have a heart attack i'm not interested

1458
00:54:37,670 --> 00:54:35,839
i have a stroke not interested

1459
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:37,680
i have cancer i'm certainly not

1460
00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:39,440
interested what the [\h__\h] do

1461
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:41,760
i want from the [\h__\h] health care

1462
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:43,680
system um

1463
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:46,000
emergency triage if i have a cut if i

1464
00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:47,920
cut myself in the in the [\h__\h]

1465
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:50,400
kitchen with a knife yeah i want them i

1466
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:51,440
want to withdraw

1467
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:54,480
90 [\h__\h] just because they uh yeah

1468
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:56,400
they're gonna [\h__\h] placate the

1469
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:00,880
the brits with their homie home op homie

1470
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:03,920
whatever you know that's just fine it's

1471
00:55:07,750 --> 00:55:04,400
just

1472
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:07,760
[\h__\h] i want to withdraw cut the

1473
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:09,839
health care system by 90

1474
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:12,000
but then i'm in you misunderstand man

1475
00:55:14,470 --> 00:55:12,960
and i'll

1476
00:55:16,549 --> 00:55:14,480
address your good points because i

1477
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:16,559
understand your

1478
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:19,760
protests but they are misplaced because

1479
00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:23,119
your concerns are not a problem

1480
00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:26,400
if you break your leg it's who's gonna

1481
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:27,119
finance

1482
00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:29,680
the solution if you get cancer who's

1483
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:30,720
gonna finance

1484
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:33,200
the solution here's the point you're

1485
00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:35,119
saying you don't want to go to

1486
00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:38,240
aleopats to treat that that's fine

1487
00:55:41,990 --> 00:55:40,559
who says you the point is you're going

1488
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:42,000
to have expenses

1489
00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:44,640
who's going to finance those expenses as

1490
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:46,799
it now stands

1491
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:50,000
in the whole world it's not

1492
00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:53,359
a profit it's not a commodity like i'm a

1493
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:55,359
libertarian i think that you should have

1494
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:55,599
an

1495
00:56:00,630 --> 00:55:58,640
open market place market

1496
00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:00,640
a town square kind of thing if you

1497
00:56:04,470 --> 00:56:02,720
invent something it belongs to you

1498
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:04,480
internet was like this in the beginning

1499
00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:06,000
it was free

1500
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:08,000
and that's how it should be but the

1501
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:10,480
military should never be privatized to

1502
00:56:15,270 --> 00:56:12,000
corporations

1503
00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:15,280
and grown by them the police

1504
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:17,119
and the prisons should but you have done

1505
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:18,559
it with the prisons that's crazy and the

1506
00:56:21,510 --> 00:56:19,760
fire department

1507
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:21,520
should not be run should not be a

1508
00:56:26,309 --> 00:56:24,559
business and the same with education and

1509
00:56:30,230 --> 00:56:26,319
the same with health

1510
00:56:32,549 --> 00:56:30,240
now does it mean that the state

1511
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:32,559
or some special interest group or some

1512
00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:34,240
corporations are going to dictate the

1513
00:56:39,270 --> 00:56:36,480
philosophy of that health system no

1514
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:39,280
because that's another matter and today

1515
00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:39,839
you don't

1516
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:42,480
have a state-run health system and you

1517
00:56:46,549 --> 00:56:44,640
still have those people in power

1518
00:56:48,390 --> 00:56:46,559
and they are also very influential here

1519
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:48,400
but less because

1520
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:50,240
they can price coach medicines in

1521
00:56:54,549 --> 00:56:52,799
america like you can go to canada or

1522
00:56:56,390 --> 00:56:54,559
mexico and get it for one tenth of the

1523
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:56,400
price because there's not a competition

1524
00:57:00,069 --> 00:56:56,960
there

1525
00:57:02,150 --> 00:57:00,079
about it here in norway

1526
00:57:03,109 --> 00:57:02,160
nobody has an interest in keeping me

1527
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:03,119
sick

1528
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:06,160
or or refraining me from getting health

1529
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:08,079
care because of the insurance but in

1530
00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:09,520
america there's so many

1531
00:57:13,109 --> 00:57:11,200
poisonous incentives there's so much

1532
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:13,119
criminality in the system

1533
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:15,200
that they have taken over the state so

1534
00:57:20,630 --> 00:57:16,960
the fdr

1535
00:57:22,630 --> 00:57:20,640
uh food and drug is completely corrupt

1536
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:22,640
and they are all influenced by the

1537
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:24,960
multinational corporation and when they

1538
00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:27,280
those people become politicians they

1539
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:28,640
influence politicians and those

1540
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:29,839
politicians

1541
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:31,920
work in those companies so it's a

1542
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:33,599
revolving door it's

1543
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:35,680
so there's a special interest have taken

1544
00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:36,880
over it's not about who

1545
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:39,440
finances it and you can have a system

1546
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:40,559
where you have

1547
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:43,440
insurance this is the right-wing system

1548
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:45,359
you you have private insurance but it's

1549
00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:47,359
a real competition among the insurance

1550
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:48,160
companies

1551
00:57:52,870 --> 00:57:51,440
it's not like now rigged and those who

1552
00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:52,880
can't afford it

1553
00:57:55,589 --> 00:57:54,319
it's not it's not going to be tied to

1554
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:55,599
your job by the way it's just going to

1555
00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:57,680
be tied to you what you pay

1556
00:58:00,870 --> 00:57:59,920
and what and the jobs and al i go back

1557
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:00,880
to my question

1558
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:03,520
what do you want out of the health care

1559
00:58:07,109 --> 00:58:04,400
system

1560
00:58:07,990 --> 00:58:07,119
i don't want i the what i want is so

1561
00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:08,000
minuscule

1562
00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:10,400
that we don't need to jump through all

1563
00:58:13,030 --> 00:58:12,559
these gyrations what are you worried

1564
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:13,040
about

1565
00:58:17,030 --> 00:58:16,319
cancer treatment or i mean what are you

1566
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:17,040
worried about

1567
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:20,799
things like so i don't have any interest

1568
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:21,280
in it

1569
00:58:24,309 --> 00:58:23,680
so yeah it's corrupt it's completely

1570
00:58:25,910 --> 00:58:24,319
corrupt

1571
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:25,920
it's come from its core but it's

1572
00:58:30,309 --> 00:58:27,680
philosophically it's it's

1573
00:58:31,750 --> 00:58:30,319
it's not even based in reality so i

1574
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:31,760
don't know why what you what you're

1575
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:33,440
fighting for so back to the personal

1576
00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:34,000
question

1577
00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:35,520
what do you want what are you afraid of

1578
00:58:39,109 --> 00:58:37,040
that you're going to need to buy from

1579
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:39,119
those phony baloney

1580
00:58:44,309 --> 00:58:42,240
health peddlers no uh i i

1581
00:58:46,789 --> 00:58:44,319
i mean nothing would change today i have

1582
00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:46,799
full freedom i only use the health

1583
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:49,760
options i prefer okay and that's

1584
00:58:52,470 --> 00:58:51,520
probably because i haven't had any

1585
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:52,480
serious health

1586
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:54,640
incidents but if i get cancer for

1587
00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:55,520
example

1588
00:59:02,710 --> 00:58:59,200
i'm gonna go i'm not gonna take um

1589
00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:02,720
you know the radiation therapy but

1590
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:05,839
i'm so lucky right i can choose because

1591
00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:07,599
i don't have to pay for this stuff

1592
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:11,599
if you come visit me as a foreigner and

1593
00:59:17,670 --> 00:59:15,359
you are run over by a car

1594
00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:17,680
then you get free health care if you

1595
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:18,799
come here

1596
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:21,040
visit me as a foreigner and something

1597
00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:22,559
more serious happens

1598
00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:24,720
you get a long-term disease you get you

1599
00:59:29,430 --> 00:59:26,559
get treated for free here

1600
00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:29,440
so i don't have to worry about that so

1601
00:59:32,710 --> 00:59:30,960
there's a misconception that people in

1602
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:32,720
europe have about the medical system in

1603
00:59:36,069 --> 00:59:33,839
the united states

1604
00:59:37,349 --> 00:59:36,079
it's it's not the it's not like that

1605
00:59:39,349 --> 00:59:37,359
it's not like if you go

1606
00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:39,359
if you go get admitted to the hospital

1607
00:59:42,069 --> 00:59:40,559
they turn you away

1608
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:42,079
because you got in a car accident you

1609
00:59:45,510 --> 00:59:43,599
don't have insurance that's

1610
00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:45,520
that's just not the case and the way

1611
00:59:48,390 --> 00:59:46,960
that it always is you know because

1612
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:48,400
you're talking about like

1613
00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:50,240
on a different level i don't know how

1614
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:52,480
you process that inside of the medical

1615
00:59:54,309 --> 00:59:53,680
tyranny where they're going to make

1616
00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:54,319
people

1617
00:59:59,670 --> 00:59:57,599
uh take vaccines that are just

1618
01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:59,680
we don't know what the hell they are

1619
01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:01,839
because we don't know what the virus is

1620
01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:04,480
you know back if we rewind this all the

1621
01:00:07,750 --> 01:00:06,240
way back to your covet interviews

1622
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:07,760
the great thing about your covet

1623
01:00:12,549 --> 01:00:09,760
interviews is at the very beginning

1624
01:00:13,750 --> 01:00:12,559
you identified this thing as if not a

1625
01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:13,760
bio weapon

1626
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:17,200
certainly in engineered a a

1627
01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:19,280
virus and i think that's such an

1628
01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:20,960
important foundational

1629
01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:23,280
fundamental piece to have in place

1630
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:25,280
because we can trace through my shows

1631
01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:26,160
over the year

1632
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:28,640
over this last year but that became a

1633
01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:29,680
real hot issue

1634
01:00:33,670 --> 01:00:31,520
i interviewed david ike and he came on

1635
01:00:35,430 --> 01:00:33,680
and said there is no virus and i love

1636
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:35,440
david ike to to death

1637
01:00:38,470 --> 01:00:37,680
but i i said david surely you don't

1638
01:00:41,109 --> 01:00:38,480
believe

1639
01:00:42,230 --> 01:00:41,119
that they have not isolated the virus

1640
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:42,240
but this has become

1641
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:45,599
a hot issue in the alt-fault community

1642
01:00:49,990 --> 01:00:47,520
and it shouldn't be it's flat earth

1643
01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:50,000
science and then when you exposed

1644
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:52,480
with again your george webb thing was

1645
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:53,760
phenomenal because there's an

1646
01:00:57,829 --> 01:00:55,200
investigative reporter

1647
01:00:59,190 --> 01:00:57,839
who starts at that point and then gets

1648
01:01:01,589 --> 01:00:59,200
back to your thing of

1649
01:01:04,069 --> 01:01:01,599
the pandemic you know it's like are they

1650
01:01:07,109 --> 01:01:04,079
just taking advantage of

1651
01:01:08,950 --> 01:01:07,119
uh capitalizing on an opportunity

1652
01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:08,960
implementing accelerating their plan

1653
01:01:14,150 --> 01:01:10,559
that they already had in place

1654
01:01:16,230 --> 01:01:14,160
or is it even more of a of a planned

1655
01:01:18,710 --> 01:01:16,240
orchestrated event

1656
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:18,720
but i'll take all that that i just laid

1657
01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:20,079
out and i'll say

1658
01:01:24,069 --> 01:01:23,440
now please step back and tell me how you

1659
01:01:26,950 --> 01:01:24,079
pack that

1660
01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:26,960
back into how you could ever trust a

1661
01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:29,040
health care system that has put us

1662
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:31,119
in this position how you could ever

1663
01:01:34,470 --> 01:01:32,240
trust them or

1664
01:01:36,309 --> 01:01:34,480
have any kind of a soap box to talk

1665
01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:36,319
about universal health care

1666
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:40,079
[\h__\h] that let me out of it

1667
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:42,400
yeah well uh i don't see the relevance

1668
01:01:46,390 --> 01:01:44,400
between how you finance health care

1669
01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:46,400
and the corruption you're pointing out

1670
01:01:49,829 --> 01:01:47,839
in the

1671
01:01:51,430 --> 01:01:49,839
not just the healthcare system but among

1672
01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:51,440
it's an ideological

1673
01:01:55,990 --> 01:01:54,000
collusion basically and it's it's the

1674
01:01:57,829 --> 01:01:56,000
oligarchs who's behind it but

1675
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:57,839
what what on earth does that have to

1676
01:02:01,029 --> 01:01:59,680
look if they want to force vaccines it's

1677
01:02:02,470 --> 01:02:01,039
going to happen in america where they

1678
01:02:03,910 --> 01:02:02,480
don't have universal health care and

1679
01:02:05,670 --> 01:02:03,920
it's going to happen in norway where we

1680
01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:05,680
have universal healthcare it's nothing

1681
01:02:09,910 --> 01:02:07,760
to do with how you finance it

1682
01:02:10,870 --> 01:02:09,920
so who gives a [\h__\h] about universal

1683
01:02:13,349 --> 01:02:10,880
healthcare

1684
01:02:15,670 --> 01:02:13,359
who the [\h__\h] cares how you get there

1685
01:02:17,029 --> 01:02:15,680
whether the public is financing 80

1686
01:02:20,069 --> 01:02:17,039
of it over here and the public is

1687
01:02:21,589 --> 01:02:20,079
financing 100 of it over there i i

1688
01:02:23,829 --> 01:02:21,599
know i understand where you want to take

1689
01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:23,839
it so i'm going to address that okay i'm

1690
01:02:26,789 --> 01:02:25,680
going to go to the vaccines but i have

1691
01:02:30,309 --> 01:02:26,799
to

1692
01:02:33,349 --> 01:02:30,319
uh

1693
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:33,359
you know open your curtains

1694
01:02:36,390 --> 01:02:35,200
a little and show you some reality

1695
01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:36,400
you're not seeing

1696
01:02:40,390 --> 01:02:38,720
because what's happening now because of

1697
01:02:43,029 --> 01:02:40,400
the pandemic is that

1698
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:43,039
not just individual jobs are lost

1699
01:02:46,630 --> 01:02:45,520
industries are destroyed

1700
01:02:49,029 --> 01:02:46,640
and it's not just that they are

1701
01:02:50,710 --> 01:02:49,039
destroyed they are destroyed by other

1702
01:02:54,150 --> 01:02:50,720
industries deliberately

1703
01:02:57,270 --> 01:02:54,160
for example the tech industry goes from

1704
01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:57,280
100 to a thousand

1705
01:03:02,390 --> 01:03:00,319
whereas for example the whole

1706
01:03:05,829 --> 01:03:02,400
hospitality industry

1707
01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:05,839
the whole travel industry

1708
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:08,960
almost all small jobs personal

1709
01:03:13,990 --> 01:03:12,000
businesses like you started out

1710
01:03:15,750 --> 01:03:14,000
all of them are being destroyed not

1711
01:03:16,630 --> 01:03:15,760
because of their incompetence or

1712
01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:16,640
something they did

1713
01:03:21,349 --> 01:03:20,000
or whatever it's enforced upon them

1714
01:03:23,349 --> 01:03:21,359
no matter if you have universal

1715
01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:23,359
healthcare totally right has nothing to

1716
01:03:28,390 --> 01:03:24,720
do with health care

1717
01:03:31,990 --> 01:03:28,400
we sort this the result is that

1718
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:32,000
all those people are without health care

1719
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:33,839
because it's tied to their jobs not in

1720
01:03:39,829 --> 01:03:36,720
europe because they bought us

1721
01:03:42,589 --> 01:03:39,839
here as my friend don't you see the air

1722
01:03:44,870 --> 01:03:42,599
in your logic you've bought into this

1723
01:03:45,670 --> 01:03:44,880
fear-mongering that you've bought into

1724
01:03:47,990 --> 01:03:45,680
this idea

1725
01:03:49,990 --> 01:03:48,000
you've leaped from a couple of important

1726
01:03:52,950 --> 01:03:50,000
facts you've leaped from the facts

1727
01:03:55,109 --> 01:03:52,960
that yes they've destroyed all the all

1728
01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:55,119
the jobs that you could potentially have

1729
01:03:58,150 --> 01:03:57,280
so that they can con completely control

1730
01:04:00,789 --> 01:03:58,160
your life

1731
01:04:02,870 --> 01:04:00,799
but then you've been sold on this idea

1732
01:04:05,349 --> 01:04:02,880
that what they need to replace that with

1733
01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:05,359
is healthcare and i'm saying healthcare

1734
01:04:08,789 --> 01:04:06,160
is the biggest

1735
01:04:09,349 --> 01:04:08,799
fear-mongering [\h__\h] system in the

1736
01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:09,359
world

1737
01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:11,680
you can't destroy entire lines of

1738
01:04:13,910 --> 01:04:13,440
businesses and replace it with health

1739
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:13,920
care

1740
01:04:18,069 --> 01:04:15,599
first of people need money before they

1741
01:04:19,349 --> 01:04:18,079
need help health is like a secondary

1742
01:04:21,430 --> 01:04:19,359
concern i was talking about the

1743
01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:21,440
hierarchy of needs and that's what

1744
01:04:25,109 --> 01:04:22,880
they're doing now they're removing

1745
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:25,119
people's primary and secondary needs and

1746
01:04:29,270 --> 01:04:26,640
people are going to fight to get

1747
01:04:31,029 --> 01:04:29,280
that back now the freedom aspect may get

1748
01:04:34,069 --> 01:04:31,039
lost in it i agree with you

1749
01:04:35,990 --> 01:04:34,079
if you get the tyranny of

1750
01:04:37,589 --> 01:04:36,000
big pharma which we already have by the

1751
01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:37,599
way but they are getting stronger

1752
01:04:41,589 --> 01:04:40,240
in this process we have to fight that

1753
01:04:43,109 --> 01:04:41,599
but that's not

1754
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:43,119
that does nothing look we have to get

1755
01:04:48,630 --> 01:04:44,640
the jobs back

1756
01:04:51,029 --> 01:04:48,640
freedom is what we have to fight for and

1757
01:04:52,150 --> 01:04:51,039
so what's happening now is that the big

1758
01:04:54,309 --> 01:04:52,160
corporations are

1759
01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:54,319
taking those jobs i i think i said to

1760
01:04:58,150 --> 01:04:56,400
you in one of our conversations

1761
01:05:00,150 --> 01:04:58,160
if it wasn't to you i should have said

1762
01:05:01,029 --> 01:05:00,160
it because i've said it to others and

1763
01:05:03,910 --> 01:05:01,039
that's that

1764
01:05:05,270 --> 01:05:03,920
i fear that especially in america more

1765
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:05,280
and more people are working for the

1766
01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:06,880
corporations

1767
01:05:11,910 --> 01:05:09,599
because then they will support hypocrisy

1768
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:11,920
because they are dependent upon them

1769
01:05:15,829 --> 01:05:14,799
i'd much rather have a libertarian

1770
01:05:18,710 --> 01:05:15,839
society where

1771
01:05:20,789 --> 01:05:18,720
small businesses are thriving and not

1772
01:05:22,069 --> 01:05:20,799
the big corporations but the state has a

1773
01:05:23,829 --> 01:05:22,079
role in this because

1774
01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:23,839
today the state is in bed with the big

1775
01:05:29,190 --> 01:05:26,000
corporations i'm saying

1776
01:05:32,549 --> 01:05:29,200
give the bed give the state

1777
01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:32,559
the bed of the public people

1778
01:05:37,750 --> 01:05:35,680
so we can you know it's from the bottom

1779
01:05:39,270 --> 01:05:37,760
wealth is created it's their innovation

1780
01:05:42,789 --> 01:05:39,280
happens the corporations

1781
01:05:44,789 --> 01:05:42,799
are parasites they can uh

1782
01:05:46,789 --> 01:05:44,799
destroy other businesses they can take

1783
01:05:47,430 --> 01:05:46,799
over hostile they can buy them up they

1784
01:05:49,750 --> 01:05:47,440
can

1785
01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:49,760
do everything they undermine them with

1786
01:05:52,630 --> 01:05:50,880
prices etc

1787
01:05:54,390 --> 01:05:52,640
but they can never create they can never

1788
01:05:56,789 --> 01:05:54,400
contribute they can never

1789
01:05:58,630 --> 01:05:56,799
always when somebody do that it's being

1790
01:06:02,390 --> 01:05:58,640
swapped up by the bigger ones

1791
01:06:04,150 --> 01:06:02,400
so i think you conflate the idea

1792
01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:04,160
of having the freedom of not worrying

1793
01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:05,520
about your health

1794
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:09,359
with being in some kind of

1795
01:06:14,950 --> 01:06:12,640
fascist structure where

1796
01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:14,960
as allopathy is shoveled down your

1797
01:06:18,870 --> 01:06:16,400
throat

1798
01:06:20,069 --> 01:06:18,880
those are two different things we agree

1799
01:06:23,349 --> 01:06:20,079
that that's bad

1800
01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:23,359
and we can avoid that no matter if we

1801
01:06:26,950 --> 01:06:24,640
finance it

1802
01:06:28,710 --> 01:06:26,960
like we do in the whole world or if we

1803
01:06:31,190 --> 01:06:28,720
finance it like in nigeria

1804
01:06:32,309 --> 01:06:31,200
and usa because it's happening both

1805
01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:32,319
places

1806
01:06:41,430 --> 01:06:38,640
so yeah sign me up for fighting for more

1807
01:06:44,470 --> 01:06:41,440
sunlight more personal exercise etc

1808
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:44,480
but the thing is people who don't have a

1809
01:06:50,549 --> 01:06:46,000
home now or a job now

1810
01:06:53,270 --> 01:06:50,559
or any income now they need something

1811
01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:53,280
and while we are waiting for that

1812
01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:55,280
solution to be implemented they need to

1813
01:06:59,589 --> 01:06:56,960
survive

1814
01:07:01,670 --> 01:06:59,599
and if we were beginning from scratch it

1815
01:07:04,309 --> 01:07:01,680
would be so easy then we could design

1816
01:07:05,109 --> 01:07:04,319
like a ron paul paradise right like uh

1817
01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:05,119
go back a

1818
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:06,640
couple of hundred years not in terms of

1819
01:07:12,069 --> 01:07:08,960
technology but in terms of

1820
01:07:15,029 --> 01:07:12,079
personal freedom but we're not there

1821
01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:15,039
we're at the we are at uh it's dramatic

1822
01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:16,640
energies going on man and

1823
01:07:20,309 --> 01:07:18,559
and to tie that callback to what we

1824
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:20,319
begin with the whole year

1825
01:07:24,390 --> 01:07:22,480
will be a year of change and we better

1826
01:07:26,069 --> 01:07:24,400
keep our tongue straight in our mouth

1827
01:07:27,990 --> 01:07:26,079
you better try to keep a clear

1828
01:07:30,789 --> 01:07:28,000
perspective because

1829
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:30,799
we know who will cease upon this chaos

1830
01:07:33,589 --> 01:07:31,200
that's

1831
01:07:35,910 --> 01:07:33,599
the bad guys that we all agree about and

1832
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:35,920
i'm telling you everybody agrees alex

1833
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:37,760
the sleepwalkers too it's just that they

1834
01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:38,400
think

1835
01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:40,000
they don't know where the bad things are

1836
01:07:44,950 --> 01:07:42,480
coming from so they are tricked

1837
01:07:45,750 --> 01:07:44,960
into supporting you know they're taking

1838
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:45,760
their

1839
01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:48,240
as a salvation they are going to take

1840
01:07:52,150 --> 01:07:48,880
their

1841
01:07:54,390 --> 01:07:52,160
the doom that's how it is so but

1842
01:07:55,589 --> 01:07:54,400
if you can point them to solutions to

1843
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:55,599
what they want

1844
01:07:59,109 --> 01:07:57,599
like you said earlier in the show all

1845
01:08:01,589 --> 01:07:59,119
you want for society

1846
01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:01,599
everybody can support it but they don't

1847
01:08:06,630 --> 01:08:03,119
understand

1848
01:08:09,029 --> 01:08:06,640
which solution where it's coming from so

1849
01:08:11,349 --> 01:08:09,039
in crisis like this you can get people

1850
01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:11,359
to revolt against the powers that be

1851
01:08:15,430 --> 01:08:13,200
they're doing it on the goddamn left the

1852
01:08:17,590 --> 01:08:15,440
left who is so loyal to authority

1853
01:08:19,669 --> 01:08:17,600
who has been buying into reversal gate

1854
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:19,679
history all this time even those people

1855
01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:20,640
are waking up

1856
01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:24,560
in the populist left they woke up before

1857
01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:27,279
right you because you're not looking

1858
01:08:30,070 --> 01:08:28,480
enough

1859
01:08:31,510 --> 01:08:30,080
but but you're just talking about on one

1860
01:08:34,789 --> 01:08:31,520
narrow issue that i think they're

1861
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:34,799
sideways on anyway i think the whole

1862
01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:36,560
you know we've spent an hour now we've

1863
01:08:40,669 --> 01:08:38,159
spent all our time

1864
01:08:42,070 --> 01:08:40,679
talking about an issue that is such a

1865
01:08:44,070 --> 01:08:42,080
non-issue

1866
01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:44,080
because again you know you say that i'm

1867
01:08:46,789 --> 01:08:45,600
conflating things the thing i think

1868
01:08:50,829 --> 01:08:46,799
you're conflating

1869
01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:50,839
is our our modern medical

1870
01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:53,600
establishment you're conflating that

1871
01:08:56,149 --> 01:08:54,000
with

1872
01:08:58,390 --> 01:08:56,159
health and you know you want to talk

1873
01:09:01,669 --> 01:08:58,400
about correlation and causation

1874
01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:01,679
no [\h__\h] way you'd have to make that

1875
01:09:05,669 --> 01:09:02,640
case for me

1876
01:09:08,470 --> 01:09:05,679
over and over again you know my personal

1877
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:08,480
experience with this a few years ago i

1878
01:09:11,189 --> 01:09:09,600
went because i had a

1879
01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:11,199
heart condition you know something wrong

1880
01:09:14,630 --> 01:09:12,960
with my heart so i went i went through

1881
01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:14,640
the whole gamut i went through the

1882
01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:15,279
medical

1883
01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:18,719
complementary

1884
01:09:22,550 --> 01:09:21,839
medical here in in san diego they're

1885
01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:22,560
just

1886
01:09:28,470 --> 01:09:26,159
full of [\h__\h] and the the only thing that

1887
01:09:30,309 --> 01:09:28,480
we have now and people realize this

1888
01:09:32,229 --> 01:09:30,319
is the only thing we have that improves

1889
01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:32,239
it is we have

1890
01:09:38,229 --> 01:09:35,279
more sources of information so it's not

1891
01:09:40,550 --> 01:09:38,239
that everyone is full of [\h__\h] it's just

1892
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:40,560
in order to find the people who are not

1893
01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:43,359
full of [\h__\h] you know i had to go do my

1894
01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:45,759
own research i had to go find

1895
01:09:50,829 --> 01:09:48,880
the research that in in italy from some

1896
01:09:53,349 --> 01:09:50,839
doctors who were doing some very

1897
01:09:54,950 --> 01:09:53,359
unconventional stuff and then i had to

1898
01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:54,960
bring it to my [\h__\h]

1899
01:09:58,870 --> 01:09:56,880
health care provider and they still [\h__\h]

1900
01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:58,880
all over it and said you know

1901
01:10:02,550 --> 01:10:00,880
you're ridiculous unless you take these

1902
01:10:03,990 --> 01:10:02,560
black box medicines you know

1903
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:04,000
what are your wife what's your wife

1904
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:05,760
gonna say when they haul you off

1905
01:10:09,189 --> 01:10:07,280
and i had to tell those people to [\h__\h]

1906
01:10:11,669 --> 01:10:09,199
off and i had to go do it myself

1907
01:10:12,630 --> 01:10:11,679
my experience is not different my

1908
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:12,640
experience is

1909
01:10:16,709 --> 01:10:15,679
everybody's [\h__\h] experience if you go

1910
01:10:19,750 --> 01:10:16,719
in there if you

1911
01:10:22,790 --> 01:10:19,760
expect the health care system

1912
01:10:24,870 --> 01:10:22,800
to provide you health you're sunk

1913
01:10:27,270 --> 01:10:24,880
you're sunk from the beginning primary

1914
01:10:29,110 --> 01:10:27,280
needs it's more slow hierarchy of needs

1915
01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:29,120
when you don't have money you don't have

1916
01:10:32,550 --> 01:10:30,960
job maybe you don't have family maybe

1917
01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:32,560
you are

1918
01:10:35,750 --> 01:10:34,400
sick because you probably are sick if

1919
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:35,760
you live in a city

1920
01:10:42,550 --> 01:10:38,880
big city and or a cog in the system

1921
01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:42,560
those people are uh at the brinkman and

1922
01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:44,320
when that happens you can reach them

1923
01:10:49,270 --> 01:10:47,360
with better values and i just used

1924
01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:49,280
medicare for all as an example that

1925
01:10:51,910 --> 01:10:51,280
wasn't i didn't even intend to discuss

1926
01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:51,920
it with you

1927
01:10:56,630 --> 01:10:54,719
i just said the fact that they are now

1928
01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:56,640
realizing that everybody is lying to

1929
01:10:59,189 --> 01:10:57,120
them

1930
01:11:00,390 --> 01:10:59,199
that they are now fighting like a tea

1931
01:11:03,030 --> 01:11:00,400
like the tea party

1932
01:11:03,990 --> 01:11:03,040
it's a movement they're all their own uh

1933
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:04,000
masters

1934
01:11:07,189 --> 01:11:05,920
yes it's for this issue it could be for

1935
01:11:10,470 --> 01:11:07,199
any other issue

1936
01:11:12,550 --> 01:11:10,480
for example ubi or for example against

1937
01:11:15,030 --> 01:11:12,560
hang on in india in india they are

1938
01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:15,040
demonstrating against the lockdowns

1939
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:18,000
i mean general strike in paris there are

1940
01:11:20,790 --> 01:11:19,760
hundreds of thousands on the streets

1941
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:20,800
mainstream media

1942
01:11:24,870 --> 01:11:22,960
is censoring this in london there's

1943
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:24,880
hundreds of thousands on the street

1944
01:11:28,390 --> 01:11:26,560
and it's not just one thing they are

1945
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:28,400
fighting for but the main thing is they

1946
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:28,719
look

1947
01:11:32,950 --> 01:11:30,640
down they're against the lockdown this

1948
01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:32,960
means citizens are rising up some

1949
01:11:36,630 --> 01:11:34,480
because they want healthcare some

1950
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:36,640
because they want the freedom to move

1951
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:38,320
about some because they are fighting for

1952
01:11:40,950 --> 01:11:39,280
their jobs

1953
01:11:43,030 --> 01:11:40,960
they don't want the corporate takeover

1954
01:11:45,590 --> 01:11:43,040
because everybody sees what's going on

1955
01:11:46,390 --> 01:11:45,600
that's my point it's an awakening not to

1956
01:11:48,630 --> 01:11:46,400
ev look

1957
01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:48,640
you want them to come all the way to the

1958
01:11:52,630 --> 01:11:50,320
thrones where you and me are sitting and

1959
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:52,640
judging these plans right

1960
01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:55,840
like two lords you want them to you join

1961
01:12:00,149 --> 01:11:58,960
our luxury philosophical yes they can do

1962
01:12:02,630 --> 01:12:00,159
that eventually

1963
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:02,640
if they can get the basic rigging and

1964
01:12:07,510 --> 01:12:04,480
controlling and tyranny

1965
01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:07,520
uh over overthrown and and make no

1966
01:12:10,709 --> 01:12:08,000
mistake

1967
01:12:12,790 --> 01:12:10,719
about it there's much more people

1968
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:12,800
realizing what's going on

1969
01:12:15,990 --> 01:12:15,360
in terms of pandemic and and virus and

1970
01:12:19,110 --> 01:12:16,000
all that

1971
01:12:22,550 --> 01:12:19,120
because they're gambling when they

1972
01:12:24,870 --> 01:12:22,560
pull so dramatic uh things

1973
01:12:25,750 --> 01:12:24,880
that makes ordinary people uncertain and

1974
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:25,760
afraid

1975
01:12:28,870 --> 01:12:27,760
they're shaking their paradigm so much

1976
01:12:32,229 --> 01:12:28,880
that they're they are

1977
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:32,239
receptive to different to new things

1978
01:12:35,510 --> 01:12:33,360
that they want i agree

1979
01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:35,520
so so let me have a shot at this let me

1980
01:12:39,030 --> 01:12:37,199
have a shot at this because i agree with

1981
01:12:40,709 --> 01:12:39,040
that last part i believe that this is an

1982
01:12:41,270 --> 01:12:40,719
interesting discussion to have and that

1983
01:12:43,590 --> 01:12:41,280
is

1984
01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:43,600
are they over playing their hand which

1985
01:12:46,149 --> 01:12:44,960
is the expression i don't know if that

1986
01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:46,159
translates over

1987
01:12:49,189 --> 01:12:48,560
in norwegian but like if you play poker

1988
01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:49,199
and you over

1989
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:50,880
bet it somebody's going to call your

1990
01:12:55,430 --> 01:12:52,960
bluff i get that people

1991
01:12:57,189 --> 01:12:55,440
are suffering and i get that first of

1992
01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:57,199
all i get that i live in a bubble

1993
01:13:01,590 --> 01:12:59,520
[\h__\h] a yes i live in a bugle bubble

1994
01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:01,600
i've orchestrated my [\h__\h] bubble and

1995
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:03,760
i continue to orchestrate it every day

1996
01:13:08,550 --> 01:13:06,719
i understand that people are suffering i

1997
01:13:11,270 --> 01:13:08,560
understand that people have been

1998
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:11,280
intentionally pushed to the brink

1999
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:11,920
because

2000
01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:14,320
they're trying to play that fear game

2001
01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:15,520
and they're trying to turn

2002
01:13:20,310 --> 01:13:18,960
people into these more manipulated you

2003
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:20,320
know because like you said at the very

2004
01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:21,760
beginning this is one of the ways that

2005
01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:22,800
you play them you know

2006
01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:25,360
you beat them down and then that's one

2007
01:13:28,390 --> 01:13:26,880
of the ways to control them is you just

2008
01:13:30,550 --> 01:13:28,400
beat the [\h__\h] [\h__\h] out of them

2009
01:13:31,430 --> 01:13:30,560
and i get it that's what they're doing

2010
01:13:34,790 --> 01:13:31,440
now the

2011
01:13:37,430 --> 01:13:34,800
the big thing i would call you out on

2012
01:13:38,630 --> 01:13:37,440
is you've fallen for one of the basic

2013
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:38,640
[\h__\h] tricks

2014
01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:41,280
which is to say you you're now

2015
01:13:45,910 --> 01:13:43,679
empathizing with the beat down people

2016
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:45,920
and you're saying and they won't even

2017
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:47,280
give you health care

2018
01:13:50,709 --> 01:13:49,840
you need to you need to rise up and get

2019
01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:50,719
the health care

2020
01:13:56,390 --> 01:13:54,159
problem

2021
01:13:57,750 --> 01:13:56,400
it's part of the [\h__\h] tyranny that

2022
01:13:59,910 --> 01:13:57,760
they're trying to create

2023
01:14:01,189 --> 01:13:59,920
for you to focus on that and for you to

2024
01:14:03,910 --> 01:14:01,199
say that person

2025
01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:03,920
who has been beat down almost to the

2026
01:14:07,189 --> 01:14:05,280
point where they don't know

2027
01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:07,199
like this is what i think we're saying

2028
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:08,800
they beat people down but what they

2029
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:09,840
don't realize is

2030
01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:12,880
that that person is now down so low that

2031
01:14:15,590 --> 01:14:14,159
you don't know if they're going to

2032
01:14:17,669 --> 01:14:15,600
accept that handout

2033
01:14:18,870 --> 01:14:17,679
that you're coming along with to try and

2034
01:14:21,910 --> 01:14:18,880
reach them up

2035
01:14:24,229 --> 01:14:21,920
your phony baloney medical handout which

2036
01:14:25,270 --> 01:14:24,239
you know maybe will will pull them over

2037
01:14:27,189 --> 01:14:25,280
to your side

2038
01:14:28,470 --> 01:14:27,199
or if they're going to rise them say

2039
01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:28,480
[\h__\h] you

2040
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:32,080
[\h__\h] all your [\h__\h]

2041
01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:34,560
i'm taking my pitch i'm pitchfork i'm

2042
01:14:38,070 --> 01:14:35,920
taking my [\h__\h] torch

2043
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:38,080
and i'm marching to the castle don't

2044
01:14:42,229 --> 01:14:39,600
hand me any more

2045
01:14:43,990 --> 01:14:42,239
[\h__\h] [\h__\h] medicine or any of the

2046
01:14:45,430 --> 01:14:44,000
rest of the [\h__\h] that you think is gonna

2047
01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:45,440
make my life better

2048
01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:47,040
i'll tell you what's gonna make my life

2049
01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:49,600
better is you not being around and when

2050
01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:50,080
i say

2051
01:14:56,950 --> 01:14:53,840
you i mean the [\h__\h] system that we've

2052
01:14:59,350 --> 01:14:56,960
created yeah but are you saying that

2053
01:15:01,430 --> 01:14:59,360
doctors have no worth personal

2054
01:15:03,630 --> 01:15:01,440
physicians

2055
01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:03,640
their worth is significantly

2056
01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:04,800
significantly

2057
01:15:09,990 --> 01:15:07,840
less than we've been led to believe many

2058
01:15:10,870 --> 01:15:10,000
physicians are whistleblowers now many

2059
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:10,880
physicians are

2060
01:15:16,709 --> 01:15:14,080
trying to go against the big

2061
01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:16,719
uh health tyranny being implemented you

2062
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:18,880
are aware of that right that we have

2063
01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:21,360
many allies there's there's all sorts of

2064
01:15:23,669 --> 01:15:22,159
individual

2065
01:15:26,709 --> 01:15:23,679
things you know like you know how many

2066
01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:26,719
people have died of of of uh diabetes

2067
01:15:30,149 --> 01:15:29,120
during the plandemic because how many

2068
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:30,159
people died because

2069
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:31,840
because they're not getting normal

2070
01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:34,320
health care because they're afraid to go

2071
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:35,760
into a hospital because they've

2072
01:15:39,189 --> 01:15:37,199
convinced everyone that they're all

2073
01:15:42,070 --> 01:15:39,199
going to get sick

2074
01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:42,080
of this kind of medical disinformation

2075
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:43,520
and medical tyranny

2076
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:45,840
how you would look to those people as

2077
01:15:49,669 --> 01:15:46,880
some kind of

2078
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:49,679
ally in the battle i i don't understand

2079
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:51,280
that they are the biggest

2080
01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:54,239
[\h__\h] part of this thing well let's

2081
01:15:59,990 --> 01:15:56,080
say you have diabetes

2082
01:16:03,590 --> 01:16:00,000
then you need a way to get

2083
01:16:05,590 --> 01:16:03,600
it handled treated even if it's not the

2084
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:05,600
best treatment at least you need to

2085
01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:08,000
survive so that's a good example

2086
01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:10,000
let's say there's no pandemic and let's

2087
01:16:14,790 --> 01:16:12,400
say uh you don't have to

2088
01:16:16,630 --> 01:16:14,800
you know we it's no such thing as a free

2089
01:16:18,470 --> 01:16:16,640
health care we pay for our health care

2090
01:16:20,870 --> 01:16:18,480
you know here in norway stuff

2091
01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:20,880
that's the whole obamacare thing

2092
01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:22,239
everyone is covered here that's the

2093
01:16:26,149 --> 01:16:24,000
whole obamacare thing

2094
01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:26,159
they hit up rich people like me a lot

2095
01:16:31,669 --> 01:16:27,440
they hit up everybody

2096
01:16:35,590 --> 01:16:33,750
americans don't have health care yeah i

2097
01:16:38,630 --> 01:16:35,600
know you were forced into

2098
01:16:41,430 --> 01:16:38,640
having to buy into it and

2099
01:16:43,110 --> 01:16:41,440
but then you also bought their

2100
01:16:45,030 --> 01:16:43,120
explanation that everybody would be

2101
01:16:46,229 --> 01:16:45,040
covered i know for sure people

2102
01:16:48,550 --> 01:16:46,239
everybody aren't covered i know

2103
01:16:50,950 --> 01:16:48,560
personally people are not covered and

2104
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:50,960
you don't look at the look at the

2105
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:52,560
numbers but talk with anyone

2106
01:16:56,149 --> 01:16:55,440
uh it's a completely because you know

2107
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:56,159
you they have an

2108
01:16:59,590 --> 01:16:58,400
incentive not to pay out i'll give you a

2109
01:17:00,630 --> 01:16:59,600
case like like you just mentioned

2110
01:17:03,189 --> 01:17:00,640
diabetes right

2111
01:17:04,070 --> 01:17:03,199
great great example you know like one of

2112
01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:04,080
the things uh

2113
01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:06,480
so like let's take out type 1 diabetes

2114
01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:07,679
people you know

2115
01:17:10,790 --> 01:17:09,520
juvenile diabetes people are born and

2116
01:17:11,990 --> 01:17:10,800
it's horrible and they're going to have

2117
01:17:13,030 --> 01:17:12,000
to take insulin their whole life and

2118
01:17:13,830 --> 01:17:13,040
they're going to have to manage it and

2119
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:13,840
stuff like that

2120
01:17:18,070 --> 01:17:16,000
again the the cost of that at this point

2121
01:17:19,350 --> 01:17:18,080
is not astronomical right i mean we can

2122
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:19,360
manage that

2123
01:17:23,189 --> 01:17:21,360
pretty cost effectively but take for

2124
01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:23,199
example type 2 diabetes

2125
01:17:28,550 --> 01:17:26,239
which is basically just

2126
01:17:30,870 --> 01:17:28,560
people who are not willing to control

2127
01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:30,880
their diet uh you know one of the things

2128
01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:33,280
i do personally is i do kind of the the

2129
01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:35,040
fasting intermittent fasting you know i

2130
01:17:38,149 --> 01:17:35,679
just

2131
01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:38,159
eat within this five hour five hour

2132
01:17:42,950 --> 01:17:39,760
window a day

2133
01:17:43,790 --> 01:17:42,960
the effects on that on type 2 diabetes

2134
01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:43,800
are

2135
01:17:49,750 --> 01:17:46,400
overwhelming overwhelming

2136
01:17:53,030 --> 01:17:49,760
they so swamp any other quote unquote

2137
01:17:54,070 --> 01:17:53,040
medical treatment that i'm like i don't

2138
01:17:56,790 --> 01:17:54,080
give a [\h__\h]

2139
01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:56,800
i don't want to pay for someone to go in

2140
01:18:00,470 --> 01:17:57,280
and be

2141
01:18:03,030 --> 01:18:00,480
treated for for type 2 diabetes

2142
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:03,040
because they can't control their diet i

2143
01:18:07,110 --> 01:18:05,040
don't have to pay for all that

2144
01:18:08,630 --> 01:18:07,120
now i'll give you some money and you can

2145
01:18:11,590 --> 01:18:08,640
spend it how you want

2146
01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:11,600
but don't tell me that i have to have an

2147
01:18:15,270 --> 01:18:13,199
infinite deep pocket

2148
01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:15,280
because you like [\h__\h] donuts and

2149
01:18:19,990 --> 01:18:17,360
[\h__\h] hamburgers

2150
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:20,000
okay my retort to that would be that now

2151
01:18:24,470 --> 01:18:21,440
you're actually

2152
01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:24,480
without realizing it on the same

2153
01:18:28,630 --> 01:18:27,280
side as those who want to prioritize

2154
01:18:31,510 --> 01:18:28,640
allo pate

2155
01:18:32,950 --> 01:18:31,520
and not the other pates because now

2156
01:18:35,110 --> 01:18:32,960
you're going in and saying

2157
01:18:36,790 --> 01:18:35,120
yes there are two actually options that

2158
01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:36,800
both will lead to freedom

2159
01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:40,159
one is the one you are not in favor of

2160
01:18:45,189 --> 01:18:43,520
which is let every healthcare be free

2161
01:18:47,350 --> 01:18:45,199
and let people choose which one they

2162
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:47,360
want to go to

2163
01:18:51,189 --> 01:18:48,560
and they don't have to worry about

2164
01:18:52,790 --> 01:18:51,199
payment but you are now saying no no no

2165
01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:52,800
we should

2166
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:55,679
those who have lifestyle diseases those

2167
01:18:57,990 --> 01:18:57,280
should be excluded well then we could

2168
01:18:59,669 --> 01:18:58,000
also say

2169
01:19:01,189 --> 01:18:59,679
well everybody who needs acupuncture

2170
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:01,199
should be excluded no

2171
01:19:04,550 --> 01:19:03,280
it's either or it's either or either

2172
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:04,560
everything is on the table

2173
01:19:09,590 --> 01:19:07,600
and people choose freely uh according to

2174
01:19:12,070 --> 01:19:09,600
what they want and what they need

2175
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:12,080
or nothing is in the table if you just

2176
01:19:15,590 --> 01:19:12,640
accept

2177
01:19:16,870 --> 01:19:15,600
some diseases or some or causations or

2178
01:19:19,430 --> 01:19:16,880
some treatments

2179
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:19,440
then it's being corrupted but one option

2180
01:19:24,790 --> 01:19:21,600
is that the other is what you're saying

2181
01:19:25,590 --> 01:19:24,800
let people choose it by let it be

2182
01:19:29,189 --> 01:19:25,600
commercial

2183
01:19:32,390 --> 01:19:29,199
let it still be you know a business

2184
01:19:35,830 --> 01:19:32,400
to trade in your health but give

2185
01:19:36,470 --> 01:19:35,840
people the resources to finance it

2186
01:19:39,510 --> 01:19:36,480
either by

2187
01:19:41,510 --> 01:19:39,520
having work and conditions to create

2188
01:19:43,990 --> 01:19:41,520
it's always a business when people say

2189
01:19:45,669 --> 01:19:44,000
this no it's always a business somebody

2190
01:19:48,310 --> 01:19:45,679
always has to get paid

2191
01:19:49,430 --> 01:19:48,320
pfizer's [\h__\h] getting paid i don't

2192
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:49,440
know why people

2193
01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:51,520
who advocate kind of universal

2194
01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:53,520
healthcare think finder isn't getting

2195
01:19:56,709 --> 01:19:55,040
their [\h__\h] cut

2196
01:19:58,790 --> 01:19:56,719
we haven't got the health care system

2197
01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:58,800
corrupted in terms of finances

2198
01:20:02,709 --> 01:20:00,640
everything else is corrupted and we're

2199
01:20:05,110 --> 01:20:02,719
still a part of the americanization and

2200
01:20:07,110 --> 01:20:05,120
the modernization and a materialization

2201
01:20:08,229 --> 01:20:07,120
and people get sick and they get

2202
01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:08,239
vaccinated

2203
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:10,800
and they get 5g so of course we're going

2204
01:20:12,950 --> 01:20:12,400
to have the same diseases i'm just

2205
01:20:15,910 --> 01:20:12,960
saying

2206
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:15,920
when we have them people should have

2207
01:20:18,950 --> 01:20:17,280
means to

2208
01:20:20,950 --> 01:20:18,960
actually they should have to worry about

2209
01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:20,960
them like today

2210
01:20:26,229 --> 01:20:24,320
i don't have to worry oh i can't quit my

2211
01:20:27,189 --> 01:20:26,239
job because of the good healthcare plan

2212
01:20:29,270 --> 01:20:27,199
although i'm

2213
01:20:31,910 --> 01:20:29,280
miserable in this job and i'm becoming

2214
01:20:33,350 --> 01:20:31,920
sick precisely because i hate this job

2215
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:33,360
and that's why i need this goddamn

2216
01:20:35,270 --> 01:20:34,000
healthcare

2217
01:20:37,990 --> 01:20:35,280
and that's why i have to stay in that

2218
01:20:39,830 --> 01:20:38,000
job nobody norway thinks like that man

2219
01:20:42,870 --> 01:20:39,840
how are we gonna wrap this up we're not

2220
01:20:45,990 --> 01:20:42,880
wrapping up [\h__\h] by the way you said

2221
01:20:47,750 --> 01:20:46,000
uh people are overestimating no no

2222
01:20:50,470 --> 01:20:47,760
people underestimating the powers that

2223
01:20:52,790 --> 01:20:50,480
be i actually think

2224
01:20:55,189 --> 01:20:52,800
at least in our bubble and i'm talking

2225
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:55,199
about that bubble that we share

2226
01:20:59,270 --> 01:20:57,840
um i think they're overestimating them i

2227
01:21:01,590 --> 01:20:59,280
don't think the powers that b

2228
01:21:03,669 --> 01:21:01,600
are calculating for the clash back i

2229
01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:03,679
think our oligarchs today

2230
01:21:07,350 --> 01:21:06,719
are dumber than the oligarchs back in

2231
01:21:10,950 --> 01:21:07,360
the day

2232
01:21:13,669 --> 01:21:10,960
they have to pacify for

2233
01:21:14,550 --> 01:21:13,679
fox either by like they do here brave

2234
01:21:17,669 --> 01:21:14,560
new world

2235
01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:17,679
have a bubble play a nut or

2236
01:21:22,149 --> 01:21:21,760
by brute force and america is in between

2237
01:21:25,750 --> 01:21:22,159
and i

2238
01:21:27,430 --> 01:21:25,760
say it again leonardo cohen he's a

2239
01:21:30,310 --> 01:21:27,440
goddamn prophet he said

2240
01:21:31,990 --> 01:21:30,320
it's coming to america first the cradle

2241
01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:32,000
of the best and the worst

2242
01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:34,320
it's there they've got the range and the

2243
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:36,080
machinery for change

2244
01:21:41,510 --> 01:21:39,120
it's there they got the spiritual thirst

2245
01:21:42,629 --> 01:21:41,520
and i firmly believe he was right when

2246
01:21:45,430 --> 01:21:42,639
he said that

2247
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:45,440
and we're seeing it in real time now and

2248
01:21:49,510 --> 01:21:47,120
we can't wrap this up

2249
01:21:52,790 --> 01:21:49,520
without pointing to the fact that if you

2250
01:21:56,229 --> 01:21:52,800
think you saw changes in 2020

2251
01:21:57,510 --> 01:21:56,239
man brace for 2021 and some of those

2252
01:22:00,629 --> 01:21:57,520
changes will be good

2253
01:22:04,229 --> 01:22:00,639
i'm insisting on that but yeah the

2254
01:22:06,870 --> 01:22:04,239
the shadow is going to be with us still

2255
01:22:07,430 --> 01:22:06,880
and the grip is going to be firmer for

2256
01:22:09,910 --> 01:22:07,440
sure

2257
01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:09,920
but the more they do that the more they

2258
01:22:13,669 --> 01:22:11,760
are forcing a a

2259
01:22:15,430 --> 01:22:13,679
gut reaction you know you know you know

2260
01:22:18,870 --> 01:22:15,440
polarity right

2261
01:22:22,229 --> 01:22:18,880
so you push down with one force

2262
01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:22,239
and the backlash is going to be the same

2263
01:22:26,470 --> 01:22:24,800
so i'm just saying you know you and me

2264
01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:26,480
have a big responsibility

2265
01:22:30,629 --> 01:22:28,719
although we're not reaching as many

2266
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:30,639
people as we ought to or

2267
01:22:34,950 --> 01:22:33,760
we want to we're reaching enough and you

2268
01:22:37,189 --> 01:22:34,960
know as well as me

2269
01:22:38,790 --> 01:22:37,199
you know the six degrees of separation

2270
01:22:41,110 --> 01:22:38,800
you know about the 12th

2271
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:41,120
the 10th monkey 100 monkey i mean 100

2272
01:22:44,310 --> 01:22:41,840
monkey

2273
01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:44,320
and you know about one man can change

2274
01:22:47,430 --> 01:22:44,960
etc

2275
01:22:48,870 --> 01:22:47,440
so and the butterfly here and the

2276
01:22:51,270 --> 01:22:48,880
revolution there so

2277
01:22:53,430 --> 01:22:51,280
when you and me are navigate people look

2278
01:22:57,669 --> 01:22:53,440
to us many look to us for advice

2279
01:23:00,629 --> 01:22:57,679
and at least they want to get their

2280
01:23:01,910 --> 01:23:00,639
viewpoints tested so that's why it's

2281
01:23:04,950 --> 01:23:01,920
great that you and me

2282
01:23:08,229 --> 01:23:04,960
can air disagreements like intelligent

2283
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:08,239
gentleman and it's also incumbent upon

2284
01:23:15,750 --> 01:23:08,880
us be

2285
01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:15,760
not get too wrapped up in

2286
01:23:19,669 --> 01:23:17,760
subtracts because we have to have the

2287
01:23:21,510 --> 01:23:19,679
big picture to navigate through this

2288
01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:21,520
because i do agree with you that the

2289
01:23:26,470 --> 01:23:23,760
powers that be have clever ways to

2290
01:23:28,149 --> 01:23:26,480
you know manipulate and hijack and

2291
01:23:30,310 --> 01:23:28,159
distract and all that stuff

2292
01:23:31,430 --> 01:23:30,320
so we have to try to keep our tongue

2293
01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:31,440
straight in the mouth

2294
01:23:34,870 --> 01:23:33,120
i think you make a really good point and

2295
01:23:37,669 --> 01:23:34,880
it's one that you know as you were

2296
01:23:39,270 --> 01:23:37,679
saying it i was like [\h__\h] he's right

2297
01:23:42,149 --> 01:23:39,280
because i think everything that we're

2298
01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:42,159
seeing unfolding right now

2299
01:23:46,709 --> 01:23:44,719
suggests that they don't have a very

2300
01:23:48,229 --> 01:23:46,719
good handle on what the [\h__\h] they're

2301
01:23:49,910 --> 01:23:48,239
doing

2302
01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:49,920
i don't even say desperation i think

2303
01:23:54,870 --> 01:23:51,600
desperation is the wrong

2304
01:23:55,669 --> 01:23:54,880
word i think it more uh more what what

2305
01:23:57,830 --> 01:23:55,679
you kind of

2306
01:23:59,830 --> 01:23:57,840
were alluding to is kind of a

2307
01:24:03,030 --> 01:23:59,840
fundamental incompetence in

2308
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:03,040
in terms of how to do this stuff and you

2309
01:24:05,510 --> 01:24:04,480
you said something kind of really

2310
01:24:07,830 --> 01:24:05,520
interesting and

2311
01:24:10,149 --> 01:24:07,840
you know the oligarchs of our day aren't

2312
01:24:12,709 --> 01:24:10,159
as good as the oligarchs

2313
01:24:13,669 --> 01:24:12,719
of the past it there always is the lens

2314
01:24:15,110 --> 01:24:13,679
you know the monday

2315
01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:15,120
morning quarterback and we're picking

2316
01:24:17,910 --> 01:24:16,480
and choosing i don't know that they were

2317
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:17,920
ever that good before

2318
01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:20,080
but i think there's a fundamental truth

2319
01:24:23,270 --> 01:24:21,600
to what you're saying so let me put you

2320
01:24:23,830 --> 01:24:23,280
on the spot here because we didn't do

2321
01:24:25,750 --> 01:24:23,840
the

2322
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:25,760
2020 show that i wanted but we are going

2323
01:24:30,070 --> 01:24:26,880
to do the prediction

2324
01:24:31,590 --> 01:24:30,080
aspect of it we are

2325
01:24:33,350 --> 01:24:31,600
i don't know how close you're following

2326
01:24:34,629 --> 01:24:33,360
this and i am so not

2327
01:24:37,430 --> 01:24:34,639
uh it's funny right at the beginning you

2328
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:37,440
said you're not a 24-hour news cycle guy

2329
01:24:41,750 --> 01:24:38,880
i have worked so

2330
01:24:42,470 --> 01:24:41,760
hard to not be i will just shut myself

2331
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:42,480
off from

2332
01:24:46,629 --> 01:24:45,280
news and you know my friends and family

2333
01:24:48,310 --> 01:24:46,639
will say something and they'll look at

2334
01:24:49,990 --> 01:24:48,320
me like are you a complete idiot you

2335
01:24:53,110 --> 01:24:50,000
didn't hear that that happened

2336
01:24:55,910 --> 01:24:53,120
but this last year i've i've been forced

2337
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:55,920
to be more of in the news cycle and i'll

2338
01:24:58,870 --> 01:24:57,600
tell you what i'm in the news cycle on

2339
01:25:01,830 --> 01:24:58,880
right now which i think

2340
01:25:03,510 --> 01:25:01,840
is no doubt going to be one of the

2341
01:25:07,430 --> 01:25:03,520
fundamental

2342
01:25:10,629 --> 01:25:07,440
key events of i don't even want to say

2343
01:25:12,550 --> 01:25:10,639
2020 or 2021 because it feels to me like

2344
01:25:13,189 --> 01:25:12,560
a guy who's lived you know a few years

2345
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:13,199
now

2346
01:25:17,510 --> 01:25:15,760
as one of the most fundamental profound

2347
01:25:20,390 --> 01:25:17,520
moments of our time

2348
01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:20,400
and that's that there's more and more

2349
01:25:23,350 --> 01:25:22,480
evidence that trump is going to fight

2350
01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:23,360
this thing

2351
01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:26,000
all the way and that he is not going

2352
01:25:31,189 --> 01:25:27,679
that he is going to

2353
01:25:32,070 --> 01:25:31,199
probably you know he's going to force

2354
01:25:34,629 --> 01:25:32,080
biden's hand

2355
01:25:35,750 --> 01:25:34,639
by threatening uh uh bringing him on

2356
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:35,760
charges for treason

2357
01:25:39,030 --> 01:25:37,600
bringing his son on charges for trees

2358
01:25:40,229 --> 01:25:39,040
and bringing his brother on charges for

2359
01:25:42,870 --> 01:25:40,239
treason and

2360
01:25:44,709 --> 01:25:42,880
as well as you know arresting a bunch of

2361
01:25:47,430 --> 01:25:44,719
other people and under the insurrect

2362
01:25:48,950 --> 01:25:47,440
insurrection act and basically declaring

2363
01:25:51,189 --> 01:25:48,960
something close to a

2364
01:25:52,229 --> 01:25:51,199
martial i'm not saying that's going to

2365
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:52,239
happen

2366
01:25:55,910 --> 01:25:55,199
i'm just saying anyone who isn't aware

2367
01:25:59,189 --> 01:25:55,920
that that

2368
01:26:02,550 --> 01:25:59,199
option is in play and being

2369
01:26:03,669 --> 01:26:02,560
actively actively considered at a very

2370
01:26:06,149 --> 01:26:03,679
serious level

2371
01:26:07,669 --> 01:26:06,159
and anyone who isn't considering the

2372
01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:07,679
implications of that

2373
01:26:11,030 --> 01:26:10,000
because that's not something you can do

2374
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:11,040
halfway

2375
01:26:17,510 --> 01:26:14,320
if he goes that way he will be

2376
01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:17,520
forced to train the swamp something he's

2377
01:26:20,149 --> 01:26:18,320
been

2378
01:26:22,070 --> 01:26:20,159
people have said he's going to do but i

2379
01:26:23,590 --> 01:26:22,080
think i don't know what to make of trump

2380
01:26:24,229 --> 01:26:23,600
because he certainly hasn't drained the

2381
01:26:26,870 --> 01:26:24,239
swamp

2382
01:26:27,990 --> 01:26:26,880
yet he's demonstrated as being nothing

2383
01:26:31,350 --> 01:26:28,000
other than somebody who's

2384
01:26:34,550 --> 01:26:31,360
in the swamp but if he crosses

2385
01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:34,560
if he crosses the rubicon here he will

2386
01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:35,600
be forced

2387
01:26:39,110 --> 01:26:38,560
to play that out because he will be

2388
01:26:41,669 --> 01:26:39,120
taking

2389
01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:41,679
that step do you think that's going to

2390
01:26:45,030 --> 01:26:42,719
happen

2391
01:26:47,110 --> 01:26:45,040
and what do you think will be the the

2392
01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:47,120
impact either way if he does or if he

2393
01:26:50,390 --> 01:26:48,560
doesn't because if he doesn't what a lot

2394
01:26:53,430 --> 01:26:50,400
of people are saying is then

2395
01:26:53,910 --> 01:26:53,440
america is probably going to be very

2396
01:26:55,430 --> 01:26:53,920
different

2397
01:26:57,030 --> 01:26:55,440
just in terms of the people that are

2398
01:26:58,950 --> 01:26:57,040
taking control

2399
01:27:01,110 --> 01:26:58,960
clearly they have you know rigged the

2400
01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:01,120
election that

2401
01:27:04,390 --> 01:27:02,880
back to our statistics thing you know

2402
01:27:06,390 --> 01:27:04,400
the best proof for that is just

2403
01:27:07,750 --> 01:27:06,400
statistics in the same way we say other

2404
01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:07,760
elections are phony you know

2405
01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:10,800
you can't have 105 of

2406
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:14,960
the precinct in wisconsin voting 105

2407
01:27:18,390 --> 01:27:17,040
that does it you know you can't have

2408
01:27:20,950 --> 01:27:18,400
that

2409
01:27:22,629 --> 01:27:20,960
and have a real legitimate election so

2410
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:22,639
given that we didn't have a legitimate

2411
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:24,320
election who cares we we

2412
01:27:27,750 --> 01:27:26,080
have a lot of illegitimate elections but

2413
01:27:29,350 --> 01:27:27,760
my point is if this

2414
01:27:31,350 --> 01:27:29,360
illegitimate election is allowed to

2415
01:27:33,270 --> 01:27:31,360
stand i think what a lot of people are

2416
01:27:34,870 --> 01:27:33,280
concerned about is how would you ever

2417
01:27:36,790 --> 01:27:34,880
you know how would you ever write the

2418
01:27:38,709 --> 01:27:36,800
ship after this when you've

2419
01:27:40,390 --> 01:27:38,719
kind of given the keys to the people i'm

2420
01:27:41,669 --> 01:27:40,400
a political here people i'm not saying

2421
01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:41,679
one way or another

2422
01:27:46,229 --> 01:27:44,800
one is good one is bad i just think i'd

2423
01:27:48,550 --> 01:27:46,239
like you to speak to

2424
01:27:49,910 --> 01:27:48,560
this moment in history that we're at and

2425
01:27:50,870 --> 01:27:49,920
which way you think this thing is going

2426
01:27:53,110 --> 01:27:50,880
to fall

2427
01:27:54,709 --> 01:27:53,120
yeah i'm going to be a bit more neutral

2428
01:27:58,149 --> 01:27:54,719
here i think because

2429
01:28:00,550 --> 01:27:58,159
um like in the financial thing i have

2430
01:28:01,830 --> 01:28:00,560
taken a side where which i think is the

2431
01:28:04,149 --> 01:28:01,840
best

2432
01:28:04,950 --> 01:28:04,159
working but here i haven't but i can

2433
01:28:07,910 --> 01:28:04,960
still offer

2434
01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:07,920
a fair perspective in terms of analysis

2435
01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:08,960
let me start with

2436
01:28:13,590 --> 01:28:12,000
using um russia against against trump as

2437
01:28:16,790 --> 01:28:13,600
a good example of

2438
01:28:19,030 --> 01:28:16,800
why i'm saying the current elite

2439
01:28:19,910 --> 01:28:19,040
is dumber than their previous because

2440
01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:19,920
the previous

2441
01:28:25,270 --> 01:28:23,040
had to fight its way against

2442
01:28:27,669 --> 01:28:25,280
uprising from the people they had to

2443
01:28:30,070 --> 01:28:27,679
pass they had to deal with world wars

2444
01:28:32,709 --> 01:28:30,080
they had to deal with the control

2445
01:28:35,590 --> 01:28:32,719
mechanism tools like hitler running

2446
01:28:36,629 --> 01:28:35,600
havoc and and it's like a dog they were

2447
01:28:38,709 --> 01:28:36,639
having in a leash

2448
01:28:40,229 --> 01:28:38,719
who freed himself and started inviting

2449
01:28:41,990 --> 01:28:40,239
them they had to

2450
01:28:43,990 --> 01:28:42,000
deal with the depression they had to

2451
01:28:45,910 --> 01:28:44,000
deal with i'm not saying this is

2452
01:28:47,669 --> 01:28:45,920
they they weren't a part of this they

2453
01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:47,679
precisely where they were playing they

2454
01:28:53,110 --> 01:28:49,840
even managed to face it from our

2455
01:28:53,830 --> 01:28:53,120
uh fast uh hard currency backed system

2456
01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:53,840
to our

2457
01:29:01,430 --> 01:28:57,440
fiat systems and they've implemented mmt

2458
01:29:04,870 --> 01:29:01,440
for all its worth now it's because

2459
01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:04,880
today's elite are inbred

2460
01:29:08,709 --> 01:29:06,639
more than the one in the past you know

2461
01:29:09,350 --> 01:29:08,719
even morgan i think was fighting himself

2462
01:29:12,470 --> 01:29:09,360
up from

2463
01:29:13,350 --> 01:29:12,480
from nothing so they are inbred yeah we

2464
01:29:16,070 --> 01:29:13,360
still have

2465
01:29:17,110 --> 01:29:16,080
inherited elites but there's a lot of

2466
01:29:19,030 --> 01:29:17,120
inbred

2467
01:29:20,550 --> 01:29:19,040
precisely because we have a lot of

2468
01:29:22,629 --> 01:29:20,560
inherited elites

2469
01:29:23,590 --> 01:29:22,639
it's not people fighting themselves to

2470
01:29:26,070 --> 01:29:23,600
the top anymore

2471
01:29:27,350 --> 01:29:26,080
even bill gates who people think first

2472
01:29:30,950 --> 01:29:27,360
off he didn't invent [\h__\h]

2473
01:29:33,350 --> 01:29:30,960
he hijacked it he's a thief second gates

2474
01:29:34,550 --> 01:29:33,360
he's from uh not true i would i lived

2475
01:29:36,629 --> 01:29:34,560
through that whole thing

2476
01:29:39,750 --> 01:29:36,639
we kind of do a whole show on that but

2477
01:29:42,629 --> 01:29:39,760
gates is a very good computer programmer

2478
01:29:43,110 --> 01:29:42,639
he's born into an elite family he wasn't

2479
01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:43,120
like

2480
01:29:49,030 --> 01:29:46,400
so even he even those new rich people

2481
01:29:49,669 --> 01:29:49,040
we look at aren't really new rich yes he

2482
01:29:53,030 --> 01:29:49,679
became

2483
01:29:56,070 --> 01:29:53,040
a trillionaire by his own but he was

2484
01:29:59,110 --> 01:29:56,080
uh always a part of the elite and

2485
01:30:01,590 --> 01:29:59,120
so and also they are um

2486
01:30:02,470 --> 01:30:01,600
not just in bread but uh in america

2487
01:30:05,189 --> 01:30:02,480
especially

2488
01:30:07,189 --> 01:30:05,199
but more and more everywhere the elites

2489
01:30:08,550 --> 01:30:07,199
have been unaccountable for a long time

2490
01:30:10,870 --> 01:30:08,560
they weren't before

2491
01:30:12,709 --> 01:30:10,880
the only way an elite is falling now if

2492
01:30:14,229 --> 01:30:12,719
the other elites are turning against

2493
01:30:15,110 --> 01:30:14,239
them which is what they're trying to do

2494
01:30:18,550 --> 01:30:15,120
with trump

2495
01:30:20,310 --> 01:30:18,560
so uh you are failing upwards

2496
01:30:21,750 --> 01:30:20,320
and this has happened for a long time i

2497
01:30:25,110 --> 01:30:21,760
think at least since jfk

2498
01:30:28,470 --> 01:30:25,120
but after 2001 it was systematized

2499
01:30:31,669 --> 01:30:28,480
you saw that with obama in 108 they

2500
01:30:34,870 --> 01:30:31,679
rewarded the people who did the crimes

2501
01:30:36,629 --> 01:30:34,880
banksters corporations and look at the

2502
01:30:38,550 --> 01:30:36,639
you're saying how is trump still is

2503
01:30:41,110 --> 01:30:38,560
surrounded with the swamp look at the

2504
01:30:42,629 --> 01:30:41,120
steve mnuchin one of the perpetrators of

2505
01:30:45,030 --> 01:30:42,639
the 08 recession

2506
01:30:46,229 --> 01:30:45,040
you know who was supposed to go after

2507
01:30:50,709 --> 01:30:46,239
him as public

2508
01:30:52,790 --> 01:30:50,719
prosecutor kamala [\h__\h] harris

2509
01:30:54,950 --> 01:30:52,800
like so many other sins she has on her

2510
01:30:56,149 --> 01:30:54,960
plate which is why nobody was voting for

2511
01:30:58,310 --> 01:30:56,159
her in the primary

2512
01:31:00,149 --> 01:30:58,320
so she was elected because she was

2513
01:31:02,709 --> 01:31:00,159
accepted by wall street

2514
01:31:03,990 --> 01:31:02,719
and the perfect distraction the obama

2515
01:31:06,310 --> 01:31:04,000
card uh

2516
01:31:08,229 --> 01:31:06,320
doubling down not just a colored but

2517
01:31:11,510 --> 01:31:08,239
this time also female

2518
01:31:14,470 --> 01:31:11,520
well she was bribed by minutian

2519
01:31:16,709 --> 01:31:14,480
to not prosecute and now mnuchin is the

2520
01:31:21,110 --> 01:31:16,719
goddamn finance minister

2521
01:31:23,750 --> 01:31:21,120
so uh trump he ran on real populism

2522
01:31:25,510 --> 01:31:23,760
i do i believe parts of it was his own

2523
01:31:26,629 --> 01:31:25,520
but he was more concerned about winning

2524
01:31:29,750 --> 01:31:26,639
and he believed in

2525
01:31:31,189 --> 01:31:29,760
the populist advisers he had in 16 like

2526
01:31:33,990 --> 01:31:31,199
steve bannon

2527
01:31:34,950 --> 01:31:34,000
and so he understood that's this is a

2528
01:31:37,430 --> 01:31:34,960
way to win

2529
01:31:38,229 --> 01:31:37,440
or at least it aligned with his

2530
01:31:40,390 --> 01:31:38,239
interests

2531
01:31:42,310 --> 01:31:40,400
and i do believe some populism he he

2532
01:31:44,629 --> 01:31:42,320
really believes like

2533
01:31:47,270 --> 01:31:44,639
he is actually nationalistic he's always

2534
01:31:50,629 --> 01:31:47,280
been yeah but steve bannon was a coke

2535
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:50,639
addict and and uh sex

2536
01:31:54,629 --> 01:31:52,960
nut but i don't get your prediction on

2537
01:31:55,590 --> 01:31:54,639
this i'm gonna be really really

2538
01:31:57,270 --> 01:31:55,600
disappointed

2539
01:31:59,030 --> 01:31:57,280
because all that stuff is ancient

2540
01:32:02,870 --> 01:31:59,040
history i want to know

2541
01:32:03,590 --> 01:32:02,880
your prediction look to the northern

2542
01:32:07,189 --> 01:32:03,600
lights

2543
01:32:09,350 --> 01:32:07,199
and tell me london calling

2544
01:32:10,709 --> 01:32:09,360
so here's the thing uh it's it's

2545
01:32:13,189 --> 01:32:10,719
irrelevant because

2546
01:32:14,149 --> 01:32:13,199
he lost all those people mike flynn

2547
01:32:17,270 --> 01:32:14,159
steve bannon

2548
01:32:19,750 --> 01:32:17,280
who actually helped him win he did

2549
01:32:20,470 --> 01:32:19,760
in 16 he and bernie ran on populism

2550
01:32:22,229 --> 01:32:20,480
saying they

2551
01:32:24,149 --> 01:32:22,239
actually trump said universal health

2552
01:32:28,229 --> 01:32:24,159
care no problem he said

2553
01:32:31,590 --> 01:32:28,239
we're gonna uh tariff and all that

2554
01:32:34,149 --> 01:32:31,600
tsa and all that stuff now

2555
01:32:34,629 --> 01:32:34,159
in 20 both him and bernie were running

2556
01:32:36,709 --> 01:32:34,639
on

2557
01:32:38,310 --> 01:32:36,719
identity politics because they have

2558
01:32:41,590 --> 01:32:38,320
horrible advisors so

2559
01:32:44,550 --> 01:32:41,600
trump is left alone in the swamp so

2560
01:32:47,030 --> 01:32:44,560
it's not a matter of you know if you're

2561
01:32:51,110 --> 01:32:47,040
right if trump is going to ride this off

2562
01:32:54,550 --> 01:32:51,120
it's going to be by actually doing a

2563
01:32:55,669 --> 01:32:54,560
military takeover and i don't believe he

2564
01:32:59,270 --> 01:32:55,679
has enough

2565
01:33:01,510 --> 01:32:59,280
support in the military uh the

2566
01:33:03,030 --> 01:33:01,520
courts is not going to help him we saw

2567
01:33:05,189 --> 01:33:03,040
that they're throwing out the case

2568
01:33:07,110 --> 01:33:05,199
even though it's his people in the court

2569
01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:07,120
they don't have the balls

2570
01:33:12,310 --> 01:33:09,760
and yes it's rigged i have had a program

2571
01:33:14,950 --> 01:33:12,320
about rigging in 16 already

2572
01:33:16,790 --> 01:33:14,960
and i said on twitter when people were

2573
01:33:18,870 --> 01:33:16,800
fighting about about this who's going to

2574
01:33:21,590 --> 01:33:18,880
be the next president biden or trump

2575
01:33:22,550 --> 01:33:21,600
i mean after the election so not who's

2576
01:33:24,229 --> 01:33:22,560
going to win

2577
01:33:25,910 --> 01:33:24,239
with votes but who's going to actually

2578
01:33:28,229 --> 01:33:25,920
end up and i said you know what

2579
01:33:30,149 --> 01:33:28,239
who's going to end up the winner the one

2580
01:33:33,270 --> 01:33:30,159
with the best rigging team

2581
01:33:34,550 --> 01:33:33,280
and so i i think trump's team is more

2582
01:33:37,590 --> 01:33:34,560
incompetent i think

2583
01:33:38,390 --> 01:33:37,600
his uh enemies are much more organized

2584
01:33:41,510 --> 01:33:38,400
because they

2585
01:33:44,950 --> 01:33:41,520
they have the cia and everyone on board

2586
01:33:47,990 --> 01:33:44,960
and i i trim i think trump's uh allies

2587
01:33:48,470 --> 01:33:48,000
are a minority within the elite but they

2588
01:33:51,189 --> 01:33:48,480
are there

2589
01:33:53,189 --> 01:33:51,199
and trump also has a fair portion of

2590
01:33:55,430 --> 01:33:53,199
maga people

2591
01:33:56,950 --> 01:33:55,440
who can't do anything wrong but trump

2592
01:33:57,620 --> 01:33:56,960
has an option now to

2593
01:33:59,990 --> 01:33:57,630
for example

2594
01:34:03,270 --> 01:34:00,000
[Music]

2595
01:34:05,830 --> 01:34:03,280
let assange and

2596
01:34:07,590 --> 01:34:05,840
snowden go free and he may do it just as

2597
01:34:09,189 --> 01:34:07,600
a finger up to obama

2598
01:34:11,270 --> 01:34:09,199
i don't believe he would do it for

2599
01:34:14,390 --> 01:34:11,280
ideological reasons but he would do it

2600
01:34:14,870 --> 01:34:14,400
because he knows the neolibs are going

2601
01:34:17,750 --> 01:34:14,880
to be

2602
01:34:20,149 --> 01:34:17,760
angry about that so it's i think it's

2603
01:34:23,350 --> 01:34:20,159
all up in the air trump has always been

2604
01:34:25,590 --> 01:34:23,360
like a gut guy who's a good tactician he

2605
01:34:28,709 --> 01:34:25,600
follows his gut in the now

2606
01:34:29,430 --> 01:34:28,719
so we re he could go anywhere he could

2607
01:34:34,310 --> 01:34:29,440
go to

2608
01:34:35,669 --> 01:34:34,320
like uh running again in 2024 and

2609
01:34:38,790 --> 01:34:35,679
accepting the defeat now

2610
01:34:40,070 --> 01:34:38,800
and making sure havoc like freeing

2611
01:34:43,030 --> 01:34:40,080
assange pardoning us

2612
01:34:44,790 --> 01:34:43,040
etc or he could go the way that you're

2613
01:34:47,669 --> 01:34:44,800
talking about but it's gonna be

2614
01:34:48,950 --> 01:34:47,679
remember i think he's also not as brave

2615
01:34:51,109 --> 01:34:48,960
as some would have him

2616
01:34:52,709 --> 01:34:51,119
he's thinking of his own ass the

2617
01:34:55,430 --> 01:34:52,719
backlash if he doesn't

2618
01:34:57,830 --> 01:34:55,440
get away with it is very big and it's

2619
01:34:59,590 --> 01:34:57,840
too late now to start the hot war

2620
01:35:00,950 --> 01:34:59,600
so i don't think he has enough support

2621
01:35:04,149 --> 01:35:00,960
in the system to do it

2622
01:35:08,390 --> 01:35:04,159
if he has he will do it

2623
01:35:10,629 --> 01:35:08,400
because he knows that

2624
01:35:11,590 --> 01:35:10,639
they are coming after him after the

2625
01:35:14,950 --> 01:35:11,600
election

2626
01:35:15,430 --> 01:35:14,960
so i i do not believe i never believed

2627
01:35:18,550 --> 01:35:15,440
those

2628
01:35:22,390 --> 01:35:18,560
who said that he will prosecute clinton

2629
01:35:24,870 --> 01:35:22,400
obama uh biden

2630
01:35:26,950 --> 01:35:24,880
they've said it q anon have said it for

2631
01:35:28,790 --> 01:35:26,960
years now it never happens and they're

2632
01:35:32,070 --> 01:35:28,800
always doubling down with the next

2633
01:35:34,629 --> 01:35:32,080
predicament and and it's like in cults

2634
01:35:35,189 --> 01:35:34,639
when it fails instead of saying that's

2635
01:35:37,910 --> 01:35:35,199
it

2636
01:35:40,229 --> 01:35:37,920
i've had enough they they fall for the

2637
01:35:42,229 --> 01:35:40,239
explanations and the rationalizations

2638
01:35:44,229 --> 01:35:42,239
and i haven't seen anything of this

2639
01:35:47,270 --> 01:35:44,239
behind the scenes war yet

2640
01:35:48,790 --> 01:35:47,280
in the deep state i don't think it's a

2641
01:35:50,709 --> 01:35:48,800
fight behind the scenes i think it's

2642
01:35:53,990 --> 01:35:50,719
like 90 percent

2643
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:54,000
are still intact of the deep state and i

2644
01:35:58,709 --> 01:35:55,440
think

2645
01:35:59,990 --> 01:35:58,719
some deep staters and some people in the

2646
01:36:02,950 --> 01:36:00,000
white system

2647
01:36:03,990 --> 01:36:02,960
have supported trump for ideological

2648
01:36:09,990 --> 01:36:04,000
reasons

2649
01:36:10,629 --> 01:36:10,000
nationalistic and even fascist weed

2650
01:36:12,310 --> 01:36:10,639
reasons

2651
01:36:14,390 --> 01:36:12,320
i'm not saying trump is a fascist

2652
01:36:16,629 --> 01:36:14,400
because he isn't if he was

2653
01:36:18,390 --> 01:36:16,639
he would have taken this covet and

2654
01:36:19,750 --> 01:36:18,400
seized upon it he would have taken a

2655
01:36:22,070 --> 01:36:19,760
martial law long ago

2656
01:36:23,590 --> 01:36:22,080
like many countries did he would have

2657
01:36:25,990 --> 01:36:23,600
done a shock doctrine

2658
01:36:27,109 --> 01:36:26,000
to implement stuff instead he was

2659
01:36:28,870 --> 01:36:27,119
fighting

2660
01:36:30,870 --> 01:36:28,880
of course because he has he's in the

2661
01:36:31,270 --> 01:36:30,880
hotel business and he's being ruined by

2662
01:36:33,669 --> 01:36:31,280
this

2663
01:36:35,109 --> 01:36:33,679
but he was fighting the lockdown and he

2664
01:36:36,950 --> 01:36:35,119
was wanting

2665
01:36:38,310 --> 01:36:36,960
like every man for himself which is the

2666
01:36:41,669 --> 01:36:38,320
opposite of fascism

2667
01:36:43,590 --> 01:36:41,679
so he's not the fascist but he does have

2668
01:36:46,070 --> 01:36:43,600
like he has fascist enemies and he has

2669
01:36:48,390 --> 01:36:46,080
fascist allies actually

2670
01:36:50,470 --> 01:36:48,400
and so that's why i can't do a hard

2671
01:36:52,390 --> 01:36:50,480
prediction but i can say what i don't

2672
01:36:54,149 --> 01:36:52,400
believe i do not believe he will go

2673
01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:54,159
after the big power players because

2674
01:36:59,990 --> 01:36:58,320
he knows it's they're too powerful

2675
01:37:01,990 --> 01:37:00,000
and i'm not saying biden is powerful

2676
01:37:04,870 --> 01:37:02,000
biden is just a puppet

2677
01:37:06,310 --> 01:37:04,880
like all the other politicians actors

2678
01:37:09,189 --> 01:37:06,320
basically the real powers

2679
01:37:11,109 --> 01:37:09,199
are in the hands of the banks and the

2680
01:37:13,430 --> 01:37:11,119
multinational corporations because we

2681
01:37:15,270 --> 01:37:13,440
live in a hypocrisy folks

2682
01:37:17,430 --> 01:37:15,280
we don't live in socialism we don't live

2683
01:37:20,229 --> 01:37:17,440
in capitalism we live in hypocrisy

2684
01:37:21,910 --> 01:37:20,239
which in cultural and identity politic

2685
01:37:24,149 --> 01:37:21,920
tends to be more left or right

2686
01:37:25,350 --> 01:37:24,159
here and there but that bottom line

2687
01:37:28,470 --> 01:37:25,360
that's it and

2688
01:37:31,830 --> 01:37:28,480
trump alone cannot fight that

2689
01:37:35,350 --> 01:37:31,840
and uh my okay

2690
01:37:38,070 --> 01:37:35,360
i tend to think biden will take over and

2691
01:37:39,830 --> 01:37:38,080
the swamp will be reinforced yes they're

2692
01:37:43,030 --> 01:37:39,840
still strong

2693
01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:43,040
but it's going to be same boss

2694
01:37:46,229 --> 01:37:45,600
as before it's just going to be a new

2695
01:37:47,590 --> 01:37:46,239
face

2696
01:37:49,430 --> 01:37:47,600
that's one of the reasons they hate

2697
01:37:52,870 --> 01:37:49,440
trump because he doesn't put a pleasant

2698
01:37:55,990 --> 01:37:52,880
face on the machine uh biden

2699
01:37:59,189 --> 01:37:56,000
and obama certainly does but in

2700
01:38:02,470 --> 01:37:59,199
in terms of actions um i think

2701
01:38:04,470 --> 01:38:02,480
i think it will be a term for the worse

2702
01:38:07,430 --> 01:38:04,480
but i think it will be balanced by

2703
01:38:09,030 --> 01:38:07,440
people or pricing on different areas

2704
01:38:11,990 --> 01:38:09,040
when they uprise

2705
01:38:12,709 --> 01:38:12,000
against lockdown that they do all over

2706
01:38:15,270 --> 01:38:12,719
the world now

2707
01:38:15,990 --> 01:38:15,280
national strike national strike is one

2708
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:16,000
general strike

2709
01:38:20,550 --> 01:38:18,239
is one of the left two last tools we

2710
01:38:23,590 --> 01:38:20,560
have left i was trying to say earlier

2711
01:38:26,550 --> 01:38:23,600
but when that happens i think

2712
01:38:27,830 --> 01:38:26,560
we can contain some of the worst [\h__\h]

2713
01:38:30,950 --> 01:38:27,840
coming down on us

2714
01:38:33,669 --> 01:38:30,960
from the politicians and

2715
01:38:34,550 --> 01:38:33,679
if trump actually goes the way you're

2716
01:38:36,629 --> 01:38:34,560
saying

2717
01:38:39,350 --> 01:38:36,639
it's going to be ugly because he won't

2718
01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:39,360
make a populism regime

2719
01:38:44,950 --> 01:38:42,000
it will be like some kind of bolsonaro

2720
01:38:48,390 --> 01:38:44,960
brazil thing or victor urban

2721
01:38:51,669 --> 01:38:48,400
in hungary which is more or less

2722
01:38:55,109 --> 01:38:51,679
not national one state

2723
01:38:55,750 --> 01:38:55,119
nationalist regime and then you can

2724
01:38:58,070 --> 01:38:55,760
discuss

2725
01:38:59,430 --> 01:38:58,080
is going to be worse or better than what

2726
01:39:02,390 --> 01:38:59,440
you got now

2727
01:39:04,470 --> 01:39:02,400
i can see how things can be much worse

2728
01:39:07,270 --> 01:39:04,480
but maybe it will actually be better

2729
01:39:07,990 --> 01:39:07,280
but that's what you're going to get but

2730
01:39:10,629 --> 01:39:08,000
i hope

2731
01:39:12,550 --> 01:39:10,639
what will happen is that people rise up

2732
01:39:12,790 --> 01:39:12,560
which they will do on different areas

2733
01:39:15,189 --> 01:39:12,800
and

2734
01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:15,199
you you don't smack it down because the

2735
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:16,400
left and the right

2736
01:39:19,669 --> 01:39:18,719
you know when a left left goes out on

2737
01:39:21,109 --> 01:39:19,679
the street

2738
01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:21,119
black lives matter stuff like that

2739
01:39:26,470 --> 01:39:23,040
against the police the right says oh

2740
01:39:28,070 --> 01:39:26,480
no no [\h__\h] it this is uh we're against

2741
01:39:28,709 --> 01:39:28,080
this when the right goes out in the

2742
01:39:30,790 --> 01:39:28,719
streets

2743
01:39:32,070 --> 01:39:30,800
like against the mosques or whatever

2744
01:39:34,390 --> 01:39:32,080
then the leftists

2745
01:39:35,750 --> 01:39:34,400
are coming in and poo pooing that and as

2746
01:39:38,709 --> 01:39:35,760
long as people don't

2747
01:39:39,750 --> 01:39:38,719
just realize look we're all pissed we

2748
01:39:42,709 --> 01:39:39,760
have to get

2749
01:39:45,350 --> 01:39:42,719
on the streets with orange west's until

2750
01:39:48,310 --> 01:39:45,360
we take over the democratic institutions

2751
01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:48,320
until that happens big structural

2752
01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:49,760
changes won't happen

2753
01:39:55,109 --> 01:39:52,880
so for 2021 i think the most changes

2754
01:39:57,070 --> 01:39:55,119
would happen in the grassroots

2755
01:39:58,709 --> 01:39:57,080
i think it you will see lots more

2756
01:40:01,940 --> 01:39:58,719
demonstrations

2757
01:40:03,350 --> 01:40:01,950
fights strikes um

2758
01:40:05,109 --> 01:40:03,360
[Music]

2759
01:40:06,790 --> 01:40:05,119
yeah different kind of populism

2760
01:40:08,950 --> 01:40:06,800
uprisings

2761
01:40:10,310 --> 01:40:08,960
and more much more i think you and me

2762
01:40:12,390 --> 01:40:10,320
will see more listeners

2763
01:40:14,790 --> 01:40:12,400
coming to us the independent will grow

2764
01:40:17,990 --> 01:40:14,800
the independent independent will grow

2765
01:40:19,830 --> 01:40:18,000
or the alt alt as you call it uh but the

2766
01:40:23,189 --> 01:40:19,840
huge structural changes

2767
01:40:26,470 --> 01:40:23,199
well they can happen overnight but

2768
01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:26,480
i can't see ending 2021 with

2769
01:40:31,830 --> 01:40:29,199
let's say a biden regime and still

2770
01:40:34,149 --> 01:40:31,840
having a corvette problem and

2771
01:40:36,070 --> 01:40:34,159
maybe even being closer to a mass mass

2772
01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:36,080
vaccination but more people than ever

2773
01:40:39,830 --> 01:40:37,199
will have

2774
01:40:41,350 --> 01:40:39,840
awakened man and that will be so

2775
01:40:43,430 --> 01:40:41,360
encouraging for us all

2776
01:40:45,030 --> 01:40:43,440
because it's not because it's not about

2777
01:40:47,990 --> 01:40:45,040
what system do we live in

2778
01:40:49,189 --> 01:40:48,000
it's about how many people accept the

2779
01:40:54,629 --> 01:40:49,199
system we live in

2780
01:40:58,070 --> 01:40:57,189
changes is going to happen you know i

2781
01:41:00,149 --> 01:40:58,080
wish i could

2782
01:41:01,830 --> 01:41:00,159
we could deconstruct that which we would

2783
01:41:02,709 --> 01:41:01,840
have to but we just don't have the time

2784
01:41:05,750 --> 01:41:02,719
to do it

2785
01:41:09,350 --> 01:41:05,760
but i think your analysis of trump

2786
01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:09,360
is very very nuanced and very very

2787
01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:10,480
insightful

2788
01:41:16,830 --> 01:41:13,679
in in a lot of ways all right my friend

2789
01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:16,840
our guest our guest again has been the

2790
01:41:22,629 --> 01:41:20,159
fantastic al borealis

2791
01:41:23,750 --> 01:41:22,639
check out forum borealis i'll obviously

2792
01:41:26,629 --> 01:41:23,760
have links

2793
01:41:28,790 --> 01:41:26,639
in the show and don't think this is

2794
01:41:29,510 --> 01:41:28,800
going to be the end of this conversation

2795
01:41:31,510 --> 01:41:29,520
there's

2796
01:41:33,189 --> 01:41:31,520
too much great stuff that we didn't have

2797
01:41:36,629 --> 01:41:33,199
a chance to talk about

2798
01:41:39,590 --> 01:41:36,639
so we'll have to do it again real soon

2799
01:41:40,149 --> 01:41:39,600
and see how this 2021 prediction of his

2800
01:41:43,270 --> 01:41:40,159
uh

2801
01:41:45,350 --> 01:41:43,280
kind of plays out so al my friend

2802
01:41:46,950 --> 01:41:45,360
thank you very much merry christmas

2803
01:41:48,470 --> 01:41:46,960
happy new year

2804
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:48,480
you're the best buddy i really

2805
01:41:52,950 --> 01:41:50,800
appreciate you and great winter sources

2806
01:41:54,950 --> 01:41:52,960
to you

2807
01:41:57,510 --> 01:41:54,960
thanks again to al for joining me today

2808
01:41:59,189 --> 01:41:57,520
on skeptico the one question i guess i

2809
01:42:02,629 --> 01:41:59,199
tee up is the one that

2810
01:42:03,830 --> 01:42:02,639
we spent so much time on and not that i

2811
01:42:07,030 --> 01:42:03,840
think either one of us

2812
01:42:09,030 --> 01:42:07,040
anticipated it but it kind of led to an

2813
01:42:10,149 --> 01:42:09,040
interesting discussion on a number of

2814
01:42:14,070 --> 01:42:10,159
levels and that

2815
01:42:18,070 --> 01:42:14,080
is what do you make of universal

2816
01:42:21,109 --> 01:42:18,080
health care do you see that more as a

2817
01:42:21,910 --> 01:42:21,119
fundamental right that might give us a

2818
01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:21,920
little

2819
01:42:25,590 --> 01:42:24,560
port in the storm in these very

2820
01:42:28,870 --> 01:42:25,600
uncertain

2821
01:42:31,669 --> 01:42:28,880
and fear generating times

2822
01:42:33,990 --> 01:42:31,679
or do you see it as just another and

2823
01:42:37,910 --> 01:42:34,000
maybe even a primary

2824
01:42:41,350 --> 01:42:37,920
tool of control by a increasingly

2825
01:42:42,790 --> 01:42:41,360
engineered society

2826
01:42:45,830 --> 01:42:42,800
at least that's how i tee up that

2827
01:42:48,550 --> 01:42:45,840
question i'd be super interested to hear

2828
01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:48,560
your answers to it let me know what you

2829
01:42:51,350 --> 01:42:49,600
think

2830
01:42:53,189 --> 01:42:51,360
so i did after we wrapped up this

2831
01:42:57,270 --> 01:42:53,199
interview i did talk to al

2832
01:43:00,229 --> 01:42:57,280
about doing this end-of-year show

2833
01:43:02,070 --> 01:43:00,239
which we originally planned on doing so

2834
01:43:04,790 --> 01:43:02,080
we're now trying to arrange that i think

2835
01:43:05,750 --> 01:43:04,800
absolutely terrific to do with al since

2836
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:05,760
i have

2837
01:43:11,189 --> 01:43:08,880
so much respect for not only his show

2838
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:11,199
but his very deep

2839
01:43:16,870 --> 01:43:14,400
thinking on a lot of different topics so

2840
01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:16,880
hopefully we can put that together i

2841
01:43:21,030 --> 01:43:18,080
also have a bunch of

2842
01:43:22,950 --> 01:43:21,040
other shows coming up so please stay

2843
01:43:26,430 --> 01:43:22,960
with me for all of that